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"... Federal Power vs State Resistance: Immigration Clash Intensifies 🇺🇸
A growing confrontation is unfolding between federal immigration enforcement officials and state leadership in Arizona, highlighting the broader national conflict over “sanctuary” policies and deportation cooperation.

Former immigration enforcement chief Tom Homan recently warned that federal authorities may take stronger action against state or local officials who actively obstruct federal deportation operations.

His comments directed attention toward Governor Katie Hobbs and raised questions about how far the federal government is willing to go in enforcing immigration law when local governments resist.

Supporters of stronger federal enforcement argue that immigration policy is ultimately a federal responsibility under the Constitution. From their perspective, when state or local officials refuse to cooperate with deportation orders or block access to detention facilities, it undermines the rule of law and weakens border enforcement. Advocates say federal authorities must ensure immigration laws are applied consistently across the country, even if that means challenging state policies in court.
State leaders and sanctuary policy supporters see the issue differently. They argue that local governments have the right to determine how their law enforcement resources are used and that forcing cooperation with federal immigration authorities can damage trust between police and immigrant communities. Critics of aggressive federal action also warn that criminalizing political disagreements between federal and state officials could raise serious constitutional questions about states’ rights.
The dispute reflects a larger national struggle over immigration enforcement, federal authority, and the balance of power between Washington and state governments. As tensions rise, legal battles may ultimately decide how far federal authorities can go when state leaders refuse to cooperate with immigration enforcement efforts. ..."


I believe,
that if the Fed, can not stop a State Gov from harboring ILLEGALS.
All roads leading into some States will have a gate, (something), that stops all travelers, then they have to prove that they are NOT ILLEGALS.

Remember the  Calf flies 'checkpoint' ?  
Today it's just, Wave Through.
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Re: Sanctuary States
Reply #1 - Today at 09:30:34
 
"Papers please"

Do you carry your passport and birth certificate in your car?
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Reply #2 - Today at 09:36:02
 
Ah, this is clearly a good start to a discussion.

Are there any points in particular you'd like to hear others' opinions on? Something about the control posts or the feasibility of overarching federal legislation?
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Reply #3 - Today at 09:41:18
 
Serowbot wrote on Today at 09:30:34:
"Papers please"

Do you carry your passport and birth certificate in your car?



I think photo ID isn't a bad idea; we have that in Europe too.
Not that it helps prevent illegal immigration, but it does ensure a clear distinction between illegal and legal immigration.

We also have a foreign nationals police force, but it's strange that a government chooses to leave all sorts of loopholes open.
I think a clear policy with adequate enforcement is a healthy thing.
Political divisions shouldn't lead to half-hearted policies; boundaries are necessary.

I would like to hear clear arguments against uniform legislation and adequate enforcement. Do you have some ?

Let me give you a good example of good legislation and enforcement:

In our country, it's legal to drink alcohol and drive.
As long as you don't do it on the same day.


But of course, it's a bit hypocritical to limit illegal influx when you yourself are constantly invading other countries to replace presidents and destroy their infrastructure.

But yes, if you like going abroad, you like to bring your culture with you, I understand that.
It's clear that Iran also has rules and that they enforce those rules.

I would think it's a good idea if we were to expand NATO. Just make every country a member.
Then it would be clear that you can't invade another country illegally.
If we had organized this 75 years ago, we wouldn't have that problem in Gaza now.

I propose that we let the war rage on until everyone is tired of it.
And after the cleanup and reconstruction, we make everyone a member of NATO. And then we'll immediately establish clear borders and uniform laws that we won't deviate from.

Why should we make it more difficult?
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Reply #4 - Today at 10:24:40
 
I think I've demonstrated that we're clearly having a discussion here, not just complaining. There's clearly a desire to encourage discussion and express personal opinions.
Open questions are being asked, and there's an openness to alternative approaches.

Egore would you mind checking these facts?
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