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02/11/26 at 10:02:44
 
Since we had another, it’s a legit question to ask for a comprehensive report on the prescriptions given to these gender confused school shooters.
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Reply #1 - 02/11/26 at 14:21:16
 
get over it
even bugs bunny is a cross dresser
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Reply #2 - 02/11/26 at 16:26:23
 
get over it
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 But he wasn't medicated.  

 Webstermark brings up, in my opinion, this is an opinion, a good question.  Are prescription drugs impacting mental health?

 The problem is the massive numbers of humans on the same drugs that do not kill.  However we could equate the same ratios to alcohol.  For instance the overwhelming number of humans that consume alcohol in the next 24 hours, millions in the US alone, very few will intentionally kill because of the introduction of alcohol.  But alcohol also can cause one who would otherwise not kill, to do so.  

 So is alcohol causing murders?  Yes.  Are millions and millions consuming alcohol and not murdering others?  Also yes.
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Reply #3 - Yesterday at 03:51:32
 
I’m suggesting it’s a possibility that drugs, prescription or otherwise, may cause violent tendencies in individuals with a mental disorder that imagines gender disphoria. I feel it’s a possibility that automatically affirming a younger person’s opinion that they are in the wrong body and then affirming that even further with medications could have consequences that manifest themselves through violence. If the prescriptions do not offer relief, then the idea that they are completely messed up, beyond help, takes hold and grows. That’s not far fetched.

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Medical records for mass shooters are generally private and protected under health privacy laws (e.g., HIPAA in the US), so only details that have been publicly reported through investigations, court documents, leaks, or official releases are known. Full medical records are not publicly available for any of these cases, and much of what’s reported comes from partial disclosures, affidavits, or media investigations. Below, I’ll summarize the known prescription and mental health details for the four older incidents you referenced (Nashville 2023, Colorado Springs 2022, Highlands Ranch 2019, and Aberdeen 2018), based on available public information. I’ve focused on prescriptions and related medical history where documented.
Audrey Hale (Nashville Covenant School, March 2023)
Hale had a documented history of mental health treatment starting in childhood, including therapy and psychiatric care. Key known details:
•  Prescribed medications included Buspirone (for anxiety), Lexapro (escitalopram, an SSRI antidepressant), and Hydroxyzine (an antihistamine used for anxiety and tension). These were prescribed by Vanderbilt University Medical Center (VUMC) staff and found in Hale’s possession at the time of the shooting.   
•  A sodium chloride nasal spray was also prescribed, but this is non-psychiatric.
•  Diagnosed conditions: Major depressive disorder, dysthymic disorder, generalized anxiety disorder, social phobias, and anger-management issues (from a 2011 psychological assessment). 
•  Hale was receiving ongoing treatment at VUMC at the time of the incident, but managed to withhold worsening symptoms (anxiety, depression, rage) from family and professionals.  
•  No medical documentation indicates Hale was undergoing hormone replacement therapy (HRT) or had initiated a gender transition at the time of death. 
•  A search warrant and subpoena were issued for all VUMC records related to Hale’s treatment to assess mental state, but full records remain sealed.  
Anderson Lee Aldrich (Colorado Springs Club Q, November 2022)
Aldrich had court-documented mental health treatment, but specific prescription names are not fully detailed in public records—only categories and counts.
•  Prescribed nearly a dozen medications for conditions including schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and anxiety. Photos of pill bottles with Aldrich’s name were presented in court.  
•  One specific medication mentioned: Suboxone (used for opioid addiction treatment). 
•  Aldrich reported being on a “large plethora of drugs” including steroids, cocaine, and medications at the time of the shooting, contributing to being “up for days.”   
•  Defense arguments highlighted drug use and mental health as factors, but no full diagnosis list or complete prescription history has been publicly released.
•  Aldrich identifies as nonbinary (they/them pronouns), but no known HRT or transition-related prescriptions are documented in public reports.  
•  Childhood trauma, abusive family dynamics, and access to guns were cited as contributing factors in court, but medical records remain partially sealed. 
Maya (Alec) McKinney (Highlands Ranch STEM School, May 2019)
McKinney, a transgender boy, has limited public medical details, primarily from court proceedings and sentencing.
•  Reported suffering from homicidal and suicidal thoughts since age 12 and refused to take medication for these issues, stating it made them “feel alone.” 
•  No specific prescriptions are named in public records, but as a transgender individual in custody, McKinney would have legal access to hormones if prescribed prior to arrest (per precedents for incarcerated trans people). 
•  Incarcerated in a women’s facility (Denver Women’s Correctional Facility), suggesting no full medical transition at the time, but court records use male pronouns as requested. 
•  General mentions of mental health struggles, including being a “loner” and facing bullying related to sexuality/gender, but no detailed diagnoses or medication lists have been disclosed. 
•  Full medical records are not public; access would require legal consent or court order, and none have been released.
Snochia Moseley (Aberdeen Rite Aid Warehouse, September 2018)
Moseley’s mental health details emerged from police investigations and interviews post-incident.
•  Diagnosed with acute schizophrenia in 2016.   
•  Was not taking medication for the mental illness at the time of the shooting, despite the diagnosis; had become increasingly agitated in the weeks prior.  
•  Depression linked to money problems was reported by her girlfriend.  
•  Came out as transgender in 2016 and wanted to begin hormone treatment, but it’s unknown if any HRT prescriptions were started or obtained. 
•  No specific prescription names are documented in public reports; she answered “no” to mental health questions on a handgun purchase form despite the diagnosis. 
•  Prone to violent outbursts and threats, per her girlfriend’s statements to investigators. 
•  Full medical records are not public; details come from law enforcement and witness accounts.
In all cases, complete medical records are not fully known or released to the public due to privacy protections. What’s available is fragmentary and often from secondary sources like police reports or court filings. If more details emerge from ongoing investigations or leaks, they could provide additional context.
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Reply #4 - Yesterday at 05:58:39
 
Psyche meds. The problem with them is that most of them are prescribed by non-psychiatrists. Add that to the fact that most of them are completely unpredictable in how they'll affect any individual. In addition to that, all the research is with patients who have psyche counseling along with the meds. That last part is only done IF they get their psyche meds from a real psychiatrist. Those are the facts. Messing with your brain chemistry is REAL Russian roulette. That is opinion.


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Reply #5 - Yesterday at 07:45:31
 
Psyche meds. The problem with them is that most of them are prescribed by non-psychiatrists. Add that to the fact that most of them are completely unpredictable in how they'll affect any individual. In addition to that, all the research is with patients who have psyche counseling along with the meds. That last part is only done IF they get their psyche meds from a real psychiatrist. Those are the facts. Messing with your brain chemistry is REAL Russian roulette. That is opinion.

 I agree.  This is my opinion.

 The question as I understand it is if specifically transgender medications cause mass murder. There is not enough evidence to say.  I could see standard psych meds having a more direct impact than hormone therapy.  Either way, if we take millions of humans on these drugs, and compare to how many are mass murderers, it will be extremely difficult to get a definite answer.

 It is much easier to say there is a connection if we ignore the humans that do not kill.  This is similar to the Covid vaccine connections to child death by only calculating the dead and completely ignoring millions of living children.  
 
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Reply #6 - Yesterday at 08:00:55
 

From AI (which, by the way, is just a massive, google search)

 I partially agree.  This post is an opinion.

 AI does a massive search but the results are fabricated.  I've seen way too many identical simple searches that provide conflicting AI returns.  This is why when presenting AI driven data the promts should be presented, no different than providing references, as well as the AI used.

 Another issue is once an AI return is reposted, like on this forum, it self-consumes.  So if an inaccurate return is presented as fact, it re-presents as factual on more AI returns.    

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Reply #7 - Today at 01:56:26
 
I don't know enough about these kinds of medications, although I do know that in our country, a doctor can't prescribe them; only a psychiatrist is allowed to.
When I look at his name, Jesse Van Rootselaar, I see that he has a Dutch or German background. The "Van" in his name indicates that he comes from a noble family, and that could be part of the problem. The former nobility was often cruel by nature due to years of mixing the blood of people who ruled and used violence to reinforce their power.
You also see this, for example, in the Norwegian royal family, where sexual excesses and abuse repeatedly appear in the news.
Inbreeding is also common in families of rank.

I think the reason for wanting to change your gender stems from the fact that you are not accepted by society. Bullying and condemnation aren't the nicest things to grow up with, and they drive people mad and furious.

I regularly see young people who clearly can't be categorized as straight or gay. They're unique people, and it's actually quite refreshing to see someone different.

But they often degenerate into attention-seeking perverts, and let's be honest, those LGBTQ+ people are all attention-seeking.

And considering that a mass shooting gets a fair amount of attention...

These excesses all stem from our human history and coexistence. So we are all responsible. So what are we going to do about it?

Condemn these people even further?
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