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Reply #60 - 01/30/26 at 14:27:15
 
Axman88 wrote on 01/30/26 at 09:21:27:
MnSpring wrote on 01/28/26 at 14:50:48:
Needles wrote on 01/25/26 at 05:39:46:
[i]Just because YOU support illegal cops sent by a fascist pedo dictator, ..."


Omar said:
"...  during a Tuesday press conference that one thing ICE has succeeded in doing is making Minneapolis residents love the police. ..."[/i]


Your Mentor saying,
"... Police are loved by Minneapolis residents ? ..."
   OR
Your saying;
"... illegal cops sent by a fascist pedo dictator ..." ?



I interpreted Omar's statement as meaning that Minneapolis residents exposure to ICE and CBP federal agents, have shifted their views of their own, local police force, such that they now see their local police, as reasonable and just.   I think she meant to create a distinction between the local police's professional behavior, and the unacceptable behavior of the fed agents.  I think she definitely meant to NOT include the fed agents as "police", in the context of her statement.  I think she was saying Minneapolis residents do not see these ICE and CBP agents as "police", but as an invasion force.

Lastly, "Making Minneapolis residents love the police", is a remarkable thing, because of all the bad blood that was created by the difficulty of the George Floyd death related unrest.

The point was that fed agent behavior was SO egregious, that it shifted local residents hate of their own local police force, to love.


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Reply #61 - 01/30/26 at 14:53:22
 
"... they now see their local police, as reasonable and just.  ... "

And before the FRAUD,
they were Afraid of the Police ?

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Reply #62 - 01/30/26 at 17:55:42
 
Just to get this straight.

Kazmierczak, sprayed a harmless subsistence on Omar.

Then he was TACKLED, and put in Jail.

           And that is perfectly OK.

Yet, when 'protesters' throw rocks, ice balls, kick out tail lights, damage cars, block passage and, push, kick, spit on people, and, and, and, ... are NOT put in Jail ...


           YEP. Got It !!!!!!!






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Reply #63 - 01/31/26 at 06:15:18
 
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Kazmierczak, sprayed a harmless subsistence on Omar.

you use apple cider vinegar as eye wash and tell us how harmless it is







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Reply #64 - 01/31/26 at 06:34:27
 
NOTHING the protesters have done equals summary execution of TWO legal US citizens. NOTHING. You MAGATs can try to make the false equivalency claim, but you'll look like fools.



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Reply #65 - 01/31/26 at 07:22:08
 
Just to get this straight.

Kazmierczak, sprayed a harmless subsistence on Omar.

Then he was TACKLED, and put in Jail.

          And that is perfectly OK.


 In your opinion.


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Reply #66 - 01/31/26 at 07:23:15
 
The point was that fed agent behavior was SO egregious, that it shifted local residents hate of their own local police force, to love.

 I agree that was his point.  My opinion is that I agree that was his point.  This post is an opinion.
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Reply #67 - 01/31/26 at 08:50:52
 
Needles wrote on 01/31/26 at 06:34:27:
NOTHING the protesters have done equals summary execution of TWO legal US citizens. NOTHING. You MAGATs can try to make the false equivalency claim, but you'll look like fools.

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There is no reasonable human being who would define those deaths as a result of a summary execution. I would not define Ashley Babbit’s death that way. In all three cases, officers acted in what they thought were justified actions to save themselves or others from harm caused as a result of the victim’s actions. That is not an element of the definition of summary execution.
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Reply #68 - 01/31/26 at 09:02:54
 
Well, yeah, EXCEPT THE ICE AGENTS LIED ABOUT THE INCIDENT! The man was murdered, plain and simple, unless you don't believe your lying eyes...




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Reply #69 - 01/31/26 at 10:16:51
 
If seems to me that the question people should be asking is,
 - If ICE's mission is to find and arrest illegal immigrants, WHY would they go to Minneapolis, MN to pursue this?

The 2.4% of illegal immigrants to be found there is lower than the national average of 4.1%.  There are only an estimated 130,000 immigrants in the entire STATE of Minnesota.  If ICE was looking to find "the worst of the worst", or indeed ANY illegal immigrants, they would be someplace where there is a high incidence of illegal immigrants.  1.6 million in Florida, 2.1 million in Texas.  

Why search for needles in a haystack, when you know where there is a needle warehouse?

Minneapolis has something like 10,300 illegals in TOTAL, and the federal government decides to send 2 or 3 thousand agents to round them up?
The fact that ICE and Border Patrol remain in Minneapolis at all, makes it clear that they are NOT there to catch illegals.

When our members who want to defend the egregious behaviour of these agents start acknowledging the most basic facts of the situation, the rest of us can start taking what they say seriously.
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Reply #70 - 01/31/26 at 10:50:14
 
Needles wrote on 01/31/26 at 09:02:54:
Well, yeah, EXCEPT THE ICE AGENTS LIED ABOUT THE INCIDENT! The man was murdered, plain and simple, unless you don't believe your lying eyes...

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Was Ashley Babbit murdered?
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Reply #71 - 01/31/26 at 11:03:31
 
Axman88 wrote on 01/31/26 at 10:16:51:
If seems to me that the question people should be asking is,
 - If ICE's mission is to find and arrest illegal immigrants, WHY would they go to Minneapolis, MN to pursue this?

The 2.4% of illegal immigrants to be found there is lower than the national average of 4.1%.  There are only an estimated 130,000 immigrants in the entire STATE of Minnesota.  If ICE was looking to find "the worst of the worst", or indeed ANY illegal immigrants, they would be someplace where there is a high incidence of illegal immigrants.  1.6 million in Florida, 2.1 million in Texas.  

Why search for needles in a haystack, when you know where there is a needle warehouse?

Minneapolis has something like 10,300 illegals in TOTAL, and the federal government decides to send 2 or 3 thousand agents to round them up?
The fact that ICE and Border Patrol remain in Minneapolis at all, makes it clear that they are NOT there to catch illegals.

When our members who want to defend the egregious behaviour of these agents start acknowledging the most basic facts of the situation, the rest of us can start taking what they say seriously.


I suspect Trump selected Minneapolis because 1) his tremendous dislike of Watz 2) they are a very public and active sanctuary city 3) also on Trump’s $hitlist after various riots during the Floyd protests

I don’t think the recent Somalian fraud had been exposed yet, but I could be wrong about that.

A more interesting question is why the massive protests when other states did not experience protest like that despite more immigration arrest?

Could it be the protests were encouraged by politicians who are likely to be investigated for fraud? The Governor is not running and his public life is over yet is encouraging protest despite knowing they’ll remain violent? Is this some sort of face saving strategy?

Seems as likely as Trump selecting Minneapolis because he hates Watz.
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Reply #72 - 01/31/26 at 11:40:17
 

Well, yeah, EXCEPT THE ICE AGENTS LIED ABOUT THE INCIDENT! The man was murdered, plain and simple, unless you don't believe your lying eyes...

 Well, yeah, except lying isn't a mandatory criteria for summary execution in any capacity.  Malice aforethought is a required criteria, so validating any homicide as "murder" by saying the responsible party/parties lied is incorrect.  

 If the ICE officers involved, not all ICE globally, just the one's involved, were not acting in self-defense of themselves or others from their perspective, then it could be murder.  Proving that by watching a video from the safety of your couch is practically impossible.
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Reply #73 - 01/31/26 at 11:45:57
 
Seems as likely as Trump selecting Minneapolis because he hates Watz.

 I agree.  This is an opinion.

 Axeman88 brings up accurate statistics and a pertinent question.  I think (think implies opinion) that Webstarmark's response is accurate as well.  ICE in MN is personal, and not a statistically sound use of resources  

 Colorado is experiencing a similar impact based on the mail-in voting that has been used for decades, and the Tina Peters incarceration where the State is defying Trump's calls to release her.  Now all the sudden Colorado is full of fraud, illegal immigrants, bad elections, drug dealers, etc.  Trump will gladly cripple the economy of CO harming millions because one person is in jail for a crime she admits to.  I would not be surprised if ICE hits Denver like it did Minneapolis.  

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Reply #74 - 01/31/26 at 11:47:38
 

Was Ashley Babbit murdered?

 Impossible.  MAGATs can't be murdered, they all should be dead remember?
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