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Reply #30 - Yesterday at 05:04:47

Needles wrote on 01/09/26 at 12:50:58:

The difference is that he Jan 6 TRAITORS were given trials and convicted, unless they confessed. Good was not given due process, and, NO, she did not try to hit the officer with her vehicle. She was trying to escape DEATH, you sycophantic cretins. Eyewitnesses say the ICE "Officer" yelled at her to move her vehicle, and when she did, the murderous bastard shot her, then, approached and shot her twice more. THEN they refused to let a doctor who was present treat her, as well as delaying the EMTs who showed up for at least 15 minutes. That fool is as guilty as Derek Chauvin.

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Babbitt’s due process was an instant decision made by a police officer, same as Good’s due process. I don’t personally agree with either. Both women should be alive today but it’s mostly their fault they are not, both instigated the scenario that lead to their death.

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Reply #31 - Yesterday at 06:06:01

In Babbitt's case, a crime was in commission. That means the officer can use deadly force to stop the crime. Good was not doing anything illegal. It's not the same thing. If they had not shot her, Good would have driven away. If Babbitt hadn't been stopped, Members of Congress, or even the VP would have been harmed DURING COMMISSION OF A CRIME.

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Reply #33 - Yesterday at 09:41:04

Needles wrote on Yesterday at 06:06:01:

In Babbitt's case, a crime was in commission. That means the officer can use deadly force to stop the crime. Good was not doing anything illegal. It's not the same thing. If they had not shot her, Good would have driven away. If Babbitt hadn't been stopped, Members of Congress, or even the VP would have been harmed DURING COMMISSION OF A CRIME.

So either you don’t understand and haven’t seen any of the videos, or you’re purposely lying through your teeth, or you’re blinded by partisanship that manifest’s itself in absolute hatred. One of those is only explanation for you saying she wasn’t committing a crime. Of course she was.

I don’t understand your blindness. I can freely admit Ashley Babbitt was foolish and committed a crime. I can freely admit Renee Good was foolish and committed a crime. Neither one of them deserved to get shot and killed, but they did, and it mostly their fault. In both cases the police officers could have acted differently.

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Reply #34 - Yesterday at 12:37:11

I don’t understand your blindness. I can freely admit Ashley Babbitt was foolish and committed a crime. I can freely admit Renee Good was foolish and committed a crime. Neither one of them deserved to get shot and killed, but they did, and it mostly their fault. In both cases the police officers could have acted differently.

It's not blindness in my opinion. He knows, he just can't admit it for various reasons. Typically they won't admit it to themselves, and that begins the outward projection of increasingly illogical statements. You wonder why I press issues like the WY Rancher and lay a groundwork for categorizing the repetitive and reactionary lying. It helps show some people aren't "blind" to what's going on, it's that they choose alternatives to being honest with themselves and other people.

Combine that with the fact there is pretty much zero accountability with this type of behavior online, and you get the nonsense we see on many of these issues.

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Reply #35 - Yesterday at 13:34:47

Maybe, maybe not. I tend to believe it’s blindness, unable to see. I have my blind spots, you have yours. Far, far less than some people and certainly a fraction of those who think ICE is the equivalent of Gestapo, but it’s there.

Actually I think the unfortunate death of these two women is somewhat of a litmus test. If you can’t see the similarities between them, you should rethink reality.

But a word of caution, I hope I recognize my blindness when it appears.

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9973	Re: A day of remembrance Reply #36 - Yesterday at 14:31:25 Actually I think the unfortunate death of these two women is somewhat of a litmus test. If you can’t see the similarities between them, you should rethink reality. Agreed. My opinion is that I agree.
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Needles Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1297 AR Gender:	Re: A day of remembrance Reply #37 - Yesterday at 15:04:36 Great! You both admit that Babbitt was in commission of a crime of violence. You're making progress. Now, if you can just bring yourselves to see that Good was EXECUTED while driving by a government thug, you'll be nearer to re-becoming human beings!
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Reply #38 - Yesterday at 16:50:10

Great! You both admit that Babbitt was in commission of a crime of violence. You're making progress. Now, if you can just bring yourselves to see that Good was EXECUTED while driving by a government thug, you'll be nearer to re-becoming human beings!

Now, if you can just bring yourself to see that she was evading a direct, and lawful order to get out of a vehicle. She hit the gas, so she took that risk. Just as Babbitt took a risk.

Oh yeah since ICE is not "traffic enforcement" they can't stop vehicles, I forgot about that.

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Reply #39 - Yesterday at 18:21:38

Needles wrote on Yesterday at 15:04:36:

Great! You both admit that Babbitt was in commission of a crime of violence. You're making progress. Now, if you can just bring yourselves to see that Good was EXECUTED while driving by a government thug, you'll be nearer to re-becoming human beings!

Crime of violence? Imagine he didn’t shoot her but arrested her without incident? There would be charges but don’t see assault or anything like that.

Executed? Of course not, that’s ridiculous.

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Reply #40 - Today at 06:18:35

* ICE is Immigration enforcement, NOT general law enforcement.
* ICE can only stop a vehicle for reasonable suspicion of immigration violations, unless they have a warrant. They cannot randomly stop vehicles.
* ICE can only detain individuals with reasonable suspicion of being undocumented unless they have a warrant.
* ICE can only draw their weapons if under immediate threat of bodily harm. ICE cannot use weapons to intimidate.
* ICE has ZERO jurisdiction over US citizens, and cannot stop people from filming, recording, or passing by.

Shooting a US citizen in the head 3 times in their vehicle, stopping anyone from giving aid, then leaving the scene of the crime saying "F*cking pregnant dog!" says EXECUTION, not self defense.

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