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Needles Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 849 AR Gender:	Hard facts Yesterday at 06:35:20 49% of Republicans identify as MAGATs. There are 37.7 million registered Republican voters. There are 44.1 million registered Democratic voters. US population is 340 million. MAGATs are 5.5% of the US population. The US is being ruled by a small group of oligarch psychopaths.
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Reply #1 - Yesterday at 08:50:15

let me give you some hard facts.

Imagine you were president:

You know exactly how things should be.
You judge everyone.
You tolerate no contradiction.
You don't accept the elections.
You lie to get your way and thwart your opponents.
You don't believe in honest discussion.
You talk about honor, while none of the above has anything to do with honor.
You are China-minded.

America is no longer the largest and strongest in the world. That's your beloved China.
So Trump's statement "Make America Great Again" isn't a bad idea. China's intention is to economically destroy America.

America is not run by the 5.5% maga.Trump won the elections by majority. All very democratic.

Now America is run by Trump.
Trump will go down in history as the best president America has ever had.

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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Online PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 7185 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: Hard facts Reply #2 - Yesterday at 08:55:41 Now America is run by Trump. Trump will go down in history as the best president America has ever had. [/quote] A malignant narcissist with incipient dementia the best? not hardly he's neck and neck with Nixon as the worst
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zevenenergie Serious Thumper Online SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2045 The Netherlands Den Haag	Re: Hard facts Reply #3 - Yesterday at 09:53:37 Again no real discussion or facts coming from the left.
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Reply #4 - Yesterday at 10:51:55

zevenenergie wrote on Yesterday at 08:50:15:

let me give you some hard facts.

Imagine you were president:

You know exactly how things should be. (NOT a fact.)
You judge everyone. (Likely a fact, for Trump, but NOT provable.)
You tolerate no contradiction. (Trump does that.)
You don't accept the elections. (Trump didn'y, and doesn't.)
You lie to get your way and thwart your opponents. (Trump's MO.)
You don't believe in honest discussion. (Trump is dishonest, so there can be no honest discussion.)
You talk about honor, while none of the above has anything to do with honor. (The hell you say. You've just outlined the way the MAGATs work, and yes, THEY have no honor. If they knew what it was they'd call it a weakness, just like Vance called empathy a weakness.)
You are China-minded. ( China has surpassed the US in many ways. My position is that the US should be using what works, and that is not the US form of capitalism.)

America is no longer the largest and strongest in the world. That's your beloved China.
So Trump's statement "Make America Great Again" isn't a bad idea. China's intention is to economically destroy America. (No. That is propaganda. The US is economically destroying itself, by trying to continue 19th century robber baron capitalism to compete with REGULATED CAPITALISM, which had many times less corporate overhead.)

America is not run by the 5.5% maga.Trump won the elections by majority. All very democratic. (Trump won by less than 1%. And that was only among the ones that actually voted. More voters did NOT vote than are members of EITHER party. The people running the US RIGHT NOW are MAGATs, ALL of them. And that's still only 5.5% of the population. It's OK, if you MAGATs were good at math, you'd understand logic, too.)

Now America is run by Trump. (And his MAGAT minions--- illegally, in most cases.)
Trump will go down in history as the best president America has ever had.

(Trump has already gone down in history as, by far, the WORST President the US has ever had. Stop reading propaganda for your news.)

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Reply #6 - Yesterday at 12:41:02

zevenenergie wrote on Yesterday at 09:53:37:

Again no real discussion or facts coming from the left.

I think you’ll find this interesting zeven.

I was in New Jersey this week, in the shadow of New York City. As a Swedish company, we had several people there from Sweden and a few from Germany. A group of us sat down and pretty much for the better part of 3 1/2 hours discussed global events, and obviously Trump. These men are all in their 40s and 50s, engineers, hard workers, entrepreneurs who took their ideas and developed a business, etc.

I can sum it up in this way.

1) none of those people have any affection whatsoever towards Donald Trump.

2) everyone is thrilled Donald Trump is currently President of the United States. The fear of a Kamala Harris presidency was thick enough that they said you could have cut it with a knife.

3) The shadow of Russia and China is heavy over Europe, way more so than we Americans can imagine. We often say we are insulated by two oceans, and this was abundantly clear.

Greatest president in history? That’s impossible to say because we don’t have access to alternative timelines. We have no idea of the real disaster a Harris presidency would have been. And to be fair, since this was an international conversation, the topic was the disaster that would’ve befallen on Europe with a Harris presidency not necessarily the United States.

All I can say with confidence is he’s definitely the man we needed at this time.

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Reply #7 - Yesterday at 13:26:38

Krowl wrote on Yesterday at 11:29:19:

Trump is and will be the best president this wonderful country has ever seen!!

Don't let the dingbats on the view tell you any different you idiots Grin

https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-10-worst-u-s-presidents

https://247wallst.com/special-report/2023/02/27/the-most-and-least-effective-us-
presidents-according-to-historians/

My standing challenge: Name 1 single thing Trump has done that benefits the average American, not the 1%. Just one. Oh, and you need to have proof.

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Reply #8 - Yesterday at 13:31:21

WebbyMark, So, a group of capitalists fear what would happen if the US regulated the uncontrolled capitalism it currently has? Who is surprised? The US is showing the world that it cannot compete with countries that heavily regulate capitalism. WHEN it fails, they fail, too. You should have said that your group WISHES capitalism was not failing on the global stage.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10394 Minn Gender:	Re: Hard facts Reply #9 - Yesterday at 18:40:17 Needles wrote on Yesterday at 13:26:38: *"... Oh, and you need to have proof. ..."* WHY ????? Oh, keep up the DIF posts, is helps the advertising. Every post, raises the post count. Thanks for the gift to the people who are, NOT UL, FDS, WOKE, DFI Socialists !
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Online PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 7185 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: Hard facts Reply #10 - Yesterday at 20:22:34 zevenenergie wrote on Yesterday at 09:53:37: Again no real discussion or facts coming from the left. one fact of many: "When I win, I will bring down prices starting on day one." groceries are up an average of 20% since the lyin king FELON took office
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Reply #11 - Today at 04:56:46

thumperclone wrote on Yesterday at 20:22:34:

zevenenergie wrote on Yesterday at 09:53:37:

Again no real discussion or facts coming from the left.

one fact of many:
"When I win, I will bring down prices starting on day one."

groceries are up an average of 20% since the lyin king FELON took office

“Grocery Price Increase Since Trump’s Second Inauguration

Grocery prices (measured by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics’ Consumer Price Index for “food at home”) have risen by approximately 2.7% from Trump’s second inauguration on January 20, 2025, through the latest available data for September 2025. This is a modest increase compared to prior years, reflecting continued moderation in food inflation amid stable supply chains and easing pressures from events like avian flu outbreaks earlier in the year.”

There are several free to use AI sites you could use before posting that. Asking for data like this is not actually using artificial intelligence, all it’s doing is essentially a 100 different Google searches, then compiling the data. It’s not that hard.

Are grocery prices up 20% in the last year? No, of course not.

There are plenty of legitimate gripes you can make about Trump, I don’t know why the need to make up one that’s just simply not true and easily verifiable.

Start a discussion about bombing boats they suspect are carrying drugs in the open ocean. That’s a legitimate discourse.

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Reply #12 - Today at 05:14:33

Looking at the bigger picture of the world economics, it's not surprising that Trump hasn't been able to lower the cost of living.

I think you shouldn't forget that the war in Ukraine has had an impact on the standard of living for everyone worldwide.

Then you have China and the BRIC countries, which have economically outpaced the G7 countries and are buying up all the good deals right under our noses simply because they have more money at their disposal.

China has the upper hand when it comes to the production of just about everything and has a monopoly on the extraction, processing, and sale of essential raw materials, and not just on its own territory.

Europe is losing highly economically important companies because China is buying them, including their advanced technology. And more and more, China has bribed and blackmailed officials around the world who allow this happen.

And don't forget the draining effect of your national debt on your economy. With so much debt, things will go wrong sooner or later.
And the left has sabotaged and frustrated measures.

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9712	Re: Hard facts Reply #13 - Today at 05:59:59 My standing challenge: Name 1 single thing Trump has done that benefits the average American, not the 1%. Just one. Oh, and you need to have proof. You already said you will not accept any answer. So it's not a challenge at all.
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9712	Re: Hard facts Reply #14 - Today at 06:08:33 Are grocery prices up 20% in the last year? No, of course not. There are plenty of legitimate gripes you can make about Trump, I don’t know why the need to make up one that’s just simply not true and easily verifiable. Just add that to the list of made up sh!t.
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