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Reply #61 - 10/25/25 at 17:11:48

Needles wrote on 10/25/25 at 16:26:31:

AFTER the Israeli attacks.

So which Country/Nation are you going to ?

You believe what China says, NK says, Columbia and Venezuela says, and now what the Palestinian (er HAMAS) say.

Which one are you going to,
which is SO MUCH BETTER then the USA ?

After all, all the things you say the US should have/do, are ALREADY done in those places, AND MORE.

When will you make a choice,
and leave ?

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9716	Re: HAMAS Reply #62 - 10/25/25 at 20:11:21 Basically since Trump is pro-Israel it will always be Israel that causes the violence. If Trump was pro-Palestine, then HAMAS would be the bad guys. Simple.
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Reply #63 - Yesterday at 06:19:11

Okay, time has moved on. Israel is arming certain Palestinian groups to continue fighting in Gaza, and ceasefires are being violated daily. Israel is still creating a food shortage in Gaza.

All 2,000 released Palestinians show signs of torture and mutilation, and the 200 released bodies show signs of torture, mutilation, and strangulation.

Meanwhile, Israelis in the occupied territories are attacking olive groves and committing numerous crimes. All this to steal as much land as possible from the Palestinians.

Israel's fierce and predatory attitude is no different than what we have come to expect from them in recent decades.
There is therefore no question of a ceasefire. Israel uses every situation to its advantage to decimate the Palestinian people and appropriate land.
This isn't something new; it's been around since the Jewish state was founded. The promised people and the promised land?

Jesus was tortured and died a painful death when he proclaimed that concepts, ideas, and conditioning had to be abandoned, and that one could only enter the kingdom of god naked.

Peace is so threatening to the thinking mind.

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Needles Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 867 AR Gender:	Re: HAMAS Reply #64 - Yesterday at 10:17:14 In some situations, there ARE no good guys.
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10404 Minn Gender:	Re: HAMAS Reply #65 - Yesterday at 18:24:16 Post " Reply #61" Where are YOU going ?????
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buster6315 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 398	Re: HAMAS Reply #66 - Yesterday at 20:07:46 As long as the Palestinians allow Hamas to exist, there will be no peace in that part of the world.
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zevenenergie Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2056 The Netherlands Den Haag	Re: HAMAS Reply #67 - Today at 02:45:13 Please define peace for me, or do you mean divine peace?
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Reply #68 - Today at 03:26:51

All 2,000 released Palestinians show signs of torture and mutilation, and the 200 released bodies show signs of torture, mutilation, and strangulation.

zeven, you have to know that’s not true. You sound like some other lunatics on here who believe anything they hear as long as it’s anti-Trump.

All 2000 did not show these signs, that’s ridiculous. Come on, you’re smarter than that.

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Reply #69 - Today at 07:04:13

I'm basing this on facts. I read it on NOS, our state news channel.
Not the worst source, because they're usually pro-Israel.

The Cardian
Not the worst source, because they're usually pro-Israel.

And Al Jazeera, which delivers unvarnished news and paints a fairly realistic picture, while other news channels want to deal with Israel and America in a politically correct way, they don,t.

Just take a look.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/14/freed-palestinians-describe-hor...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/18/what-we-know-about-the-torture-abus...

https://nos.nl/artikel/2534003-israel-martelt-en-vernedert-palestijnen-in-detent
iekamp-sde-teiman-geen-echte-mensen

Ask Chat GPT:

https://chatgpt.com/c/68ff7b1c-72d4-832b-b6b6-fc215618c967

Do you really think that the Israelis who wanted to commit genocide did not interrogate the Palestinian prisoners in every possible way?

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