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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29464 Tucson Az Gender:	Art of the Deal Yesterday at 11:09:47 No agreement, no ceasefire, nuttin' Plus Trump taco's for the fourth time on Russian sanctions Let's push those sanctions down the road while people die daily in Ukraine Putin now wants all of the Ukraine Is this "The Art of The Deal"? MAGA
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10197 Minn Gender:	Re: Art of the Deal Reply #1 - Yesterday at 11:19:33 Serowbot wrote on Yesterday at 11:09:47: *"... Putin now wants all of the Ukraine ..."* WOW !!!!! You got into that summit, and were able to hear and understand every word said ! Just WOW
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9471	Re: Art of the Deal Reply #2 - Yesterday at 12:10:08 Putin now wants all of the Ukraine Is this "The Art of The Deal"? Do you have a reference for this? https://www.reuters.com/world/china/outline-emerges-putins-offer-end-his-war-...
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Re: Art of the Deal
Reply #3 - Yesterday at 12:59:54

Putin confirms he wants all of Ukraine, as Europe steps up military aid
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2025/6/27/putin-confirms-he-wants-all-of-u...

Ukraine’s European allies pledged increased levels of military aid to Ukraine this year, making up for a United States aid freeze, as Russian President Vladimir Putin reaffirmed his ambition to absorb all of Ukraine into the Russian Federation.

I find Aljazeera to be a fairly reliable source

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9471	Re: Art of the Deal Reply #4 - Yesterday at 15:04:24 I find Aljazeera to be a fairly reliable source Ok but why use information pre-Trump meeting as evidence of a Trump meeting outcome? I know time and space as we know it doesn't apply to this forum, but even for you?
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Reply #5 - Yesterday at 15:47:24

I didn't realize the link was pre meeting, it just popped up when I Googled, but I was under the impression negotiations were about the Donbas and Crimea territories
To want the whole of Ukraine leaves no wiggle room on the negotiations

Why should Zelensky agree to anything if the option is nothing?

Trump needs to drop the TACO and make some impactful changes or this goes nowhere
What does Putin have over him?

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Reply #6 - Yesterday at 16:36:49

Why should Zelensky agree to anything if the option is nothing?

He shouldn't. That is most likely why the proposal is the eastern slope.

Trump needs to drop the TACO and make some impactful changes or this goes nowhere
What does Putin have over him?

No idea but I'd rather do this than shovel money at a problem that will never end unless Ukraine is defeated.

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Reply #8 - Today at 05:19:35

I’ve said from the beginning we should have never gotten this involved, this is Europe’s problem. Trump is the only one trying to stop it.

Putin is a serious problem but either we decide to take him head on or we don’t and I don’t think we should over Ukraine.

We should have sold weapons to Ukraine and let them and Europe fight it out. If after Ukraine, Putin moves against a NATO country, we get involved then, after they are weakened from fighting Ukraine. Instead we gave them billions in a war they could never win, only drag out.

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Needles Senior Member Online SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 495 AR Gender:	Re: Art of the Deal Reply #9 - Today at 05:38:49 The US agreed to back Ukraine against Russia so they would give up their nuclear bombs. They did. Now, under 47, the US is a 2 faced, lying, POS, and the world knows it. And MAGATs are fine with that...
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Reply #10 - Today at 07:09:57

Needles wrote on Today at 05:38:49:

"... The US agreed to back Ukraine ... ... ... ... "

Because,
Burisma paid Joe Biden through Hunter (+/-) $5 million each.

Then Zelenskyy told Joe,
'You Give Me Money and I will Not tell the world how CROOKED you are'
(Or Something to the like)

So Joe gave
170 BILLION
of YOUR MONEY,
to save his ass.

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