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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 14100 Gender:	Lunacy 08/12/25 at 05:10:01 Canada, France and UK say they’ll recognize Palestinian statehood. Lunacy, absolute lunacy.
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9449	Re: Lunacy Reply #1 - 08/12/25 at 05:49:30 Why is that lunacy?
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JOG Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2326 Longview, Texas Gender:	Re: Lunacy Reply #2 - 08/13/25 at 20:31:40 Seems like a road to peace,maybe.. Once they are recognized as a sovereign entity, their borders Should be recognized u,hopefully respected.
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Reply #3 - Yesterday at 04:14:56

No.

The only road to peace is the same path that resulted in Germany and Japan becoming close allies. There is no peace with groups who are dedicated to your destruction. You have to completely eliminate those people from the equation.

Completely take over Gaza. Remove anyone and everyone associated with Hamas. And I mean anyone and everyone. The only people who remain are those honest people who just want a normal life for themselves. And you rebuild Gaza and let the honest and decent people, free from the manipulation neighboring Arab states, operate it and establish a running government. Eventually, maybe in 10 years full status nation discussion can happen again, but now? No.

At the same time that is happening, if Iran, or any state shows any evidence of trying to plant terrorist inside Gaza, do what Trump did: bomb the hell out of them. Iran and the neighboring Arab states are a major obstacle to actual peace.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10182 Minn Gender:	Re: Lunacy Reply #4 - Yesterday at 07:02:07 *"... Iran and the neighboring Arab states are a major obstacle to actual peace. ..."* WAIT !!! You have to FEED the people that want to KILL YOU FIRST !!!!
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JOG Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2326 Longview, Texas Gender:	Re: Lunacy Reply #5 - Yesterday at 21:43:37 There is no peace with groups who are dedicated to your destruction. You have to completely eliminate those people from the equation. Yeah, you're right.. I was being naive.. Quick question, tho.. Are you saying we are idiots for importing Muslims?
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Reply #6 - Today at 03:43:43

JOG wrote on Yesterday at 21:43:37:

There is no peace with groups who are dedicated to your destruction. You have to completely eliminate those people from the equation.
Yeah, you're right.. I was being naive..
Quick question, tho..
Are you saying we are idiots for importing Muslims?

No. We would be idiots for mass immigration from a group of people with a clear history of violence and obviously unlikely to assimilate. For example, my favorite country of Sweden foolishly allow in hundreds of thousands of refugees from North Africa, Syria. I don’t think they did a good job of vetting them. Poland and Hungary refused and they are better off because of that.

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9449	Re: Lunacy Reply #7 - Today at 05:45:23 Quick question, tho.. Are you saying we are idiots for importing Muslims? Muslims as a whole are not required to kill Americans. Plenty of Muslims adhere to a cooperative faith method that allows for non Muslims to live. We would be idiots to import Hamas extremists who believe every non-believer needs to die.
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10182 Minn Gender:	Re: Lunacy Reply #8 - Today at 06:48:31 Eegore wrote on Today at 05:45:23: *"... We would be idiots to import Hamas extremists who believe every non-believer needs to die.* What would be your idea to VET them. To KNOW they are HAMAS, when they tell you, (with woeful tears in their eyes), that they just want a better life ?
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Reply #9 - Today at 08:08:51

What would be your idea to VET them.

To KNOW they are HAMAS, when they tell you, (with woeful tears in their eyes), that they just want a better life ?

Given I haven't seen any Hamas suicide bombings in the US lately I'd say the process being used now does a decent job.

Prohibiting the entry of any Muslim to the country would be a superior method.

What would be your idea to VET Muslims entering the US?

To KNOW they are MUSLIM, when they tell you, (with woeful tears in their eyes), that they are not practicing Islam ?

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Reply #10 - Today at 08:54:56

MnSpring wrote on Today at 06:48:31:

Eegore wrote on Today at 05:45:23:

"... We would be idiots to import Hamas extremists who believe every non-believer needs to die.

What would be your idea to VET them.

To KNOW they are HAMAS, when they tell you, (with woeful tears in their eyes), that they just want a better life ?

No vetting process is perfect but The Democratic Party’s policy of open southern borders allowed thousands and thousands of young men with no families to enter our country. That was a stupid idea.

Likewise, if we were to open up mass immigration to what the media and Democratic Party would broadly defined as Palestinian refugees, we would certainly be inviting in terrorist. That would be stupid.

If we want to create a vetting process, and a limited number of Palestinian families of husband, wife, children with some verified background to prove their desire was for a peaceful life, I think that would be fine to set a number maybe 5000 something like that.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29458 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Lunacy Reply #11 - Today at 10:07:07 Would they be doing this if Kamala was President? Probably not She wouldn't be using idiotic tariffs without understanding them, she wouldn't be calling for a resort Gaza, takeover of Canada and Greenland, siding with Russia over Ukraine ..and you think Palestinian statehood is crazy?
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