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07/27/25 at 13:17:26
 
How Enforcement Works at the EPA
“… the reason that enforcement flies under the radar is that it is complex. It is hard for even experienced journalists and policy analysts to understand the complexities of enforcement and the data on enforcement that the agency produces …”

EPA fined a  Rancher $16 million because he built a small wildlife pond on his property.
Yet the EPA. KILLED a river, and said, ‘oops’.

The latest:
“… WASHINGTON, July 24 (Reuters) - The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency plans to repeal all greenhouse gas emission standards for light-duty, medium-duty, and heavy-duty vehicles and engines in the coming days after it removes the scientific finding that justified those rules, according to a summary of the proposal. …”

“… agency is expected to say that the Clean Air Act does not authorize the EPA to impose emission standards …”


I believe Trump has something to do with that !!!!!

  The EPA,
is learning again,
it can't just do what they please.




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Reply #1 - 07/27/25 at 16:30:24
 
Another Fed Department needin delisted.
The states can keep stuff right. Frikken feds are untouchable,, and get away with what would land a citizen in prison.
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Reply #2 - Yesterday at 05:43:50
 
we don't need clean air
we don't need clean water
we need another Love Canal
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Reply #3 - Yesterday at 06:17:31
 
The only river I've ever heard of that the EPA has damaged was in New Mexico, under Bush2, when they sent CONTRACTED inspectors from the mining industry to inspect a mine, and the idiots pulled a lever and dumped the contents of the toxic holding pond into the headwaters. But, sure, go ahead and believe the MAGA myth that private corporations are better than government control. Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - Yesterday at 06:39:43
 
Needles wrote on Yesterday at 06:17:31:
"... the MAGA myth ..."



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gold-king-mine-spill-colorado-rivers-epa-claims/

From CBS, the DARLING of the FDS, DFI, WOKE, SOCIALISTS.
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Reply #5 - Yesterday at 06:45:39
 
THAT'S the one!

The actual incident was several years before that report.
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Reply #6 - Yesterday at 07:46:10
 

 I do agree it's pretty ridiculous to use the destroyed river incident to complain about the EPA all the time.  Using the Durango incident as a defense against administrative overreach is like trying to argue against helmet laws by bringing up that an EPA contractor wrecked a motorcycle and died.

 It's like saying that if a human that works for the DMV has a kid that wrecks a car causing millions in damage to farmers, the DMV loses the authority to issue and revoke Driver licenses.   When the real issue is the DMV saying you can't drive a vehicle on your private land.
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Reply #7 - Yesterday at 10:24:52
 
Eegore wrote on Yesterday at 07:46:10:
"... ridiculous to use the destroyed river incident ... as a defense against administrative overreach ...".


So Demanding a rancher, pay 16 MILLION, for building a Wild Life Pond, is the same ?

And it cost HIM a bunch of money, to NOT pay 16M,
      is irrelevant,
concerning administrative overreach ?


EPA has, AGAIN, discovered, that they can not do what ever they want to do, just because they believe they are outstandingly superior to anyone else.





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Reply #8 - Yesterday at 16:11:57
 
So Demanding a rancher, pay 16 MILLION, for building a Wild Life Pond, is the same ?

 No.  I never said that, I said the opposite of that.  It's different.  Not the same.  Different than the river incident.  It is different than the river incident, so using the river incident makes little sense.  That's because it is not the same, it is different.


And it cost HIM a bunch of money, to NOT pay 16M,
     is irrelevant,
concerning administrative overreach ?


 I never said that.  I said using the river incident as part of an argument for this is like saying a that if a human that works for the DMV has a kid that wrecks a car causing millions in damage to farmers, the DMV loses the authority to issue and revoke Driver licenses.   When the real issue is the DMV saying you can't drive a vehicle on your private land.  The real issue is them trying to control your private land.



EPA has, AGAIN, discovered, that they can not do what ever they want to do, just because they believe they are outstandingly superior to anyone else.

 After the Durango incident the EPA assisted CO in creating more avenues for them to legally pay restitution.  The limitation is in US law and does not apply specifically to the EPA.  Of course the massive lack of accountability certainly impacts their decision making.
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Reply #9 - Yesterday at 17:32:33
 
thumperclone wrote on Yesterday at 05:43:50:
we don't need clean air
we don't need clean water
we need another Love Canal


You don't think the states can protect The States better than the Feds have?
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Reply #10 - Yesterday at 20:21:39
 

You don't think the states can protect The States better than the Feds have?

 I think the States will act in their best interest at cost to other States if they can.  So that is a benefit to having a Federal process.  The problem is EPA over-reach.  It would be best if the EPA, and this is an opinion for anyone incapable of understanding what an opinion is, had the data and mediation responsibilities to support Interstate actions that impact the environment.  

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Reply #11 - Today at 07:03:54
 
Eegore wrote on Yesterday at 20:21:39:
"...   The problem is EPA over-reach.  ..."  


       DING -DING - DING !!!!!!!

(As MANY, 'better than you', Federal agencies have become)

Always think of the old phrase that Reagan made famous:

"I'm from the government
and I'm here to help."


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Reply #12 - Today at 09:08:18
 


EPA fined a  Rancher $16 million because he built a small wildlife pond on his property.

typical MAGANUT BS what's the rest of the story?

he destroyed protected wetlands to dig the pond!
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