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07/23/25 at 04:28:05
 
Was it all just normal politics? Was Hope and Change just taking advantage of an opportunity presented to him by a long shot accusation that Russia made serious inroads into the 2016 election which kept the Queen from her coronation?

Or….

Did he order intelligence community to lie, to make up accusations, to extrapolate rumors into truth with no supporting evidence?

I don’t know. I don’t know why Obama would be different than any other president or leader of the large organization. He clearly knew Joe Biden was shaking down countries and selling his office but for whatever reason he didn’t step in. I’ve always assumed he just figured it was harmless and kept Biden busy. Remember, Obama famously said, “Don’t underestimate Biden‘s ability to fxxk things up.”

I think it’s above a 50% likelihood that Obama did exactly what he’s being accused of. But I also think it’s far below a 50% likelihood there will ever be actual irrefutable evidence to prove what he did was either illegal or traitorous.

Like I’ve always said, sometimes a thief gets away with the diamonds. Obama will certainly get away with it, Hillary, certainly got away with her share of diamonds, Biden hoarded diamonds left and right and is the Pink Panther of presidential thieves, and we really don’t know yet what diamonds Trump has packed away, but like all the others, you know he has.

We like to say “time will tell” , but sometimes it doesn’t matter how much time passes; time sometimes keeps her mouth shut.





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Reply #1 - 07/23/25 at 10:53:57
 
Check my last thread. It was manufactured.
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Reply #2 - 07/24/25 at 04:30:23
 
I’ve been trying to read more and I should care more about this than I do, but I can’t get excited about what I knew all along is that political parties will cheat, steal, conduct traitorous operations to stay n power and I’m sure Obama s guilty of everything that is being alleged but also sure nothing will touch him. One of the lessors characters like Brennan or even Comey might get nailed but not HopeyChange.
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Reply #3 - Yesterday at 21:53:48
 
I can't argue
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Reply #4 - Today at 00:14:52
 

 SCOTUS rules ex-Presidents have broad immunity from prosecution.  Trump gets a "Big Win!"

https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/elections/2024/supreme-court-rules-ex-pres...

 Trump wants to arrest Obama for things he did while President.  

 Sorry but you get one or the other, not both.
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As I understand it after reading the article, Obama can indeed be prosecuted,
because a president is not immune from unofficial actions, such as personal or campaign-related actions.
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Do what you know is right. (you can always use fear as a counselor later)
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Reply #6 - Today at 05:34:10
 
As I understand it, the recent Supreme Court ruling reiterated, long-term law and policy, which is a president cannot be prosecuted while performing official duties. The question in the Trump case was were actions he was accused of, considered to be official or unofficial. I thought they kicked that back to a lower current court to determine.

The leftist non-sense that the Supreme Court gave blanket immunity was just that, non-sense.

The question in Obama’s case would be the same, was creating or at best, overhyping Russian meddling an official duty.
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