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I can post a video too. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ99GBGtb2Q&pp=ygUZSXNyYWVsIGhhcyByaWdoeWZ1bCBjbGF
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Bottom line, there’s only one side perpetuating this war/conflict: Arab states using the Palestinians as sacrificial pawns in their war on Jews. Right now, Hamas is doing their dirty work aided by some bazaar phenomenon, where the popular and entertainment cultures have grabbed ahold of the Palestinians as innocent victims and Israel as Darth Vader or something.

Do you want this to end? Tell the Palestinian people to rise up against Hamas and Arab states. Otherwise, they’re doomed and it’s their own fault.
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I see it differently.

Israelis have an expansionist drive, a collective trauma, and from that pain, they are aggressive toward anything that threatens them in any way.

The promised land is known in the Bible as Canaan, which corresponds to an area that now encompasses Israel, the West Bank, and parts of Lebanon and Syria.
It was in the Bible, but "the promised land" was never Jesus' words, and what is happening now in Gaza is entirely in the name of the Israelis themselves.

The true promised land is a spiritual state of being, which is instantly available when someone enters.

The whole promised land thing is a misunderstanding, used now and in the last century as an excuse/pretext/nonsense story to bring Jews to present-day Israel. It was colonial England that approved of conquering land, and the idea originated with them. Combined with the Jewish mindset, the desire for expansion, clever business, and seeing themselves as the chosen people, this cocktail of ideas creates a deadly combination.

They are the Hitler they armed themselves against to ensure that no Hitler would ever rise again to harm them.

They never seriously intended to live peacefully alongside the Palestinians.

I used to have a friend who lived in a kibbutz because she found it idealistic, but she came back with stories about the seizure of land from Palestinians, where Palestinians who were killed were buried in orchards with a cutting of a tree on top because the soil wasn't fertile. And that's the history of Israel, and that's why they're so hated in the Middle East, and this mentality still exists collectively.

And their attitude is, "We are the promised people, we will use you as we see fit, and given what was done to us, our ruthlessness is justified."

In your video, they conveniently forget to mention that they were the ones who crucified Jesus.

So what right do they have to use a book about enlightenment to conquer and commit genocide?

I could also draft a mandate in a large building with a lot of fanfare and have it signed by the international community.

But I'm not impressed. That same international community is now fiercely opposed to what's happening in Gaza, and their official bodies are labeling it as genocide.

Even now, the Trump administration and Israel are manipulating the entire world to revolt against Israel.

Wars are currently being used to gain geopolitical leverage, and that's what bombing Iran actually entailed.

You come up with a video from the Club 700, featuring a fake preacher/media entrepreneur.
But I'm sophisticated enough to see right through that. And I see religion as nothing more than a tool for power.

And that's because I see the difference between religion and true spirituality, which, by the way, is pure unconditional love.
So explain to me, how people get the idea to use tat as an excuse to commit genoside.
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Reply #3 - Today at 07:06:34
 
Do you want this to end? Tell the Palestinian people to rise up against Hamas and Arab states. Otherwise, they’re doomed and it’s their own fault.


Israel is pulling your leg. The whole "episijn" affair could well consist of spying on and blackmailing high-ranking officials, including Trump.

How will this end? Not with a genocidal attack. The Arab world will never forgive this, and the rest of the world will never forget it.

How will it end? History is difficult, so the future will be difficult. So what?The way right now, is for America to stop Israel.
And draw the line.
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Reply #4 - Today at 07:36:30
 
zevenenergie wrote on Today at 07:06:34:
"... Israel is pulling your leg ..."


So the October 7 attacks, the first invasion of Israeli territory since the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

Means NOTHING to you ?

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Reply #5 - Today at 07:36:35
 
zevenenergie wrote on Today at 06:11:38:
I see it differently.

Israelis have an expansionist drive, a collective trauma, and from that pain, they are aggressive toward anything that threatens them in any way. Raping and torturing women and children is more than threatening….

The promised land is known in the Bible as Canaan, which corresponds to an area that now encompasses Israel, the West Bank, and parts of Lebanon and Syria.
It was in the Bible, but "the promised land" was never Jesus' words, and what is happening now in Gaza is entirely in the name of the Israelis themselves.

The true promised land is a spiritual state of being, which is instantly available when someone enters.

The whole promised land thing is a misunderstanding, used now and in the last century as an excuse/pretext/nonsense story to bring Jews to present-day Israel. It was colonial England that approved of conquering land, and the idea originated with them. Combined with the Jewish mindset, the desire for expansion, clever business, and seeing themselves as the chosen people, this cocktail of ideas creates a deadly combination.

They are the Hitler they armed themselves against to ensure that no Hitler would ever rise again to harm them. It’s beyond pathetic to equate those two

They never seriously intended to live peacefully alongside the Palestinians.
Here, let me fix that for you: They, or no country, should consider living next to a neighboring country who repeatedly expresses a desire, and follows through with actions, to wipe them off the earth

I used to have a friend who lived in a kibbutz because she found it idealistic, but she came back with stories about the seizure of land from Palestinians, where Palestinians who were killed were buried in orchards with a cutting of a tree on top because the soil wasn't fertile. And that's the history of Israel, and that's why they're so hated in the Middle East, and this mentality still exists collectively.

And their attitude is, "We are the promised people, we will use you as we see fit, and given what was done to us, our ruthlessness is justified."

In your video, they conveniently forget to mention that they were the ones who crucified Jesus. Every one knows that, but so what?

So what right do they have to use a book about enlightenment to conquer and commit genocide? No one’s committing genocide. You can throw that word around all you want but it’s not true

I could also draft a mandate in a large building with a lot of fanfare and have it signed by the international community.

But I'm not impressed. That same international community is now fiercely opposed to what's happening in Gaza, and their official bodies are labeling it as genocide.

Even now, the Trump administration and Israel are manipulating the entire world to revolt against Israel.

Wars are currently being used to gain geopolitical leverage, and that's what bombing Iran actually entailed.

You come up with a video from the Club 700, featuring a fake preacher/media entrepreneur.
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But I'm sophisticated enough to see right through that. And I see religion as nothing more than a tool for power.

And that's because I see the difference between religion and true spirituality, which, by the way, is pure unconditional love.
So explain to me, how people get the idea to use tat as an excuse to commit genoside.

[color=#ff0000]I grabbed the first video that came up, I didn’t even watch it. Point is, I can find any video to refute another video.
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Reply #6 - Today at 07:39:56
 
zevenenergie wrote on Today at 07:06:34:
Do you want this to end? Tell the Palestinian people to rise up against Hamas and Arab states. Otherwise, they’re doomed and it’s their own fault.


Israel is pulling your leg. The whole "episijn" affair could well consist of spying on and blackmailing high-ranking officials, including Trump.

How will this end? Not with a genocidal attack. The Arab world will never forgive this, and the rest of the world will never forget it.

How will it end? History is difficult, so the future will be difficult. So what?The way right now, is for America to stop Israel.
And draw the line.


You mean return to the conditions in place on October 6th? No thanks.

Here’s the solution. Kick everyone out of Gaza. Make those Arab countries who pretend to be so upset at the plight of the Palestinians, take them in. Then bulldoze everything into the ocean. Irrigated the land, build it up, civilize it, and don’t let anybody in who is even remotely anti-somatic which I’m afraid would include you based upon your ridiculous Hitler, comparisons and claims of genocide.
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Reply #7 - Today at 08:31:25
 
WebsterMark wrote on Today at 07:36:35:
zevenenergie wrote on Today at 06:11:38:
I see it differently.

Israelis have an expansionist drive, a collective trauma, and from that pain, they are aggressive toward anything that threatens them in any way. Raping and torturing women and children is more than threatening….

The promised land is known in the Bible as Canaan, which corresponds to an area that now encompasses Israel, the West Bank, and parts of Lebanon and Syria.
It was in the Bible, but "the promised land" was never Jesus' words, and what is happening now in Gaza is entirely in the name of the Israelis themselves.

The true promised land is a spiritual state of being, which is instantly available when someone enters.

The whole promised land thing is a misunderstanding, used now and in the last century as an excuse/pretext/nonsense story to bring Jews to present-day Israel. It was colonial England that approved of conquering land, and the idea originated with them. Combined with the Jewish mindset, the desire for expansion, clever business, and seeing themselves as the chosen people, this cocktail of ideas creates a deadly combination.

They are the Hitler they armed themselves against to ensure that no Hitler would ever rise again to harm them. It’s beyond pathetic to equate those two

They never seriously intended to live peacefully alongside the Palestinians.
Here, let me fix that for you: They, or no country, should consider living next to a neighboring country who repeatedly expresses a desire, and follows through with actions, to wipe them off the earth

I used to have a friend who lived in a kibbutz because she found it idealistic, but she came back with stories about the seizure of land from Palestinians, where Palestinians who were killed were buried in orchards with a cutting of a tree on top because the soil wasn't fertile. And that's the history of Israel, and that's why they're so hated in the Middle East, and this mentality still exists collectively.

And their attitude is, "We are the promised people, we will use you as we see fit, and given what was done to us, our ruthlessness is justified."

In your video, they conveniently forget to mention that they were the ones who crucified Jesus. Every one knows that, but so what?
You can't just go around nailing people to the cross. That's what this whole discussion is about.


So what right do they have to use a book about enlightenment to conquer and commit genocide? No one’s committing genocide. You can throw that word around all you want but it’s not true

I could also draft a mandate in a large building with a lot of fanfare and have it signed by the international community.

But I'm not impressed. That same international community is now fiercely opposed to what's happening in Gaza, and their official bodies are labeling it as genocide.

Even now, the Trump administration and Israel are manipulating the entire world to revolt against Israel.

Wars are currently being used to gain geopolitical leverage, and that's what bombing Iran actually entailed.

You come up with a video from the Club 700, featuring a fake preacher/media entrepreneur.
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But I'm sophisticated enough to see right through that. And I see religion as nothing more than a tool for power.

And that's because I see the difference between religion and true spirituality, which, by the way, is pure unconditional love.
So explain to me, how people get the idea to use tat as an excuse to commit genoside.

[color=#ff0000]I grabbed the first video that came up, I didn’t even watch it. Point is, I can find any video to refute another video.
Just take a good look.
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