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GIMME, GIMME, GIMME,
07/04/25 at 07:14:01

A Yep, the Lying, Cheating, GIMME, Socialists, are all screaming because all their FREE STUFF, is going away.

They do not care that the TRULY Needy, will still be taken care of.

It is all about, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME.

Just ONE example.
A new, ‘Food Bank’ put up, took 2 years for the State to build. And the VAST MAJORITY of cars and trucks, that go there, are VERY HIGH END, and Parked CLOSE.

(The older regular cars, park way back, they are workers)

Golly Gee Wally !!!!

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JOG Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2172 Longview, Texas Gender:	Re: GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, Reply #1 - 07/05/25 at 04:08:45 What are you saying? That socialists are unethical, corrupt? I thought on!y capitalism was bad..
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Reply #2 - 07/05/25 at 04:19:27

Prove it, or it's a lie. I've never seen a food bank that had clientele that owned "very high end cars". What are you talking? Mercedes? BMW? Lexus? Rolls Royce? Lamborghini?

I'm calling bullshit.

Also, I'm understanding you're ok with the "GIMME GIMME GIMME" that capitalist 1%-ers get by the billions, even though they don't need it nor deserve it.

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Reply #3 - 07/05/25 at 07:10:36

Needles wrote on 07/05/25 at 04:19:27:

"... I'm calling bullshit. ..."

Depends on ‘Reality that is Observed’.

If you believe OBSERVED REALITY,
is not really, real, fine.
Just find some soft sand !

First Time, 40 +/- years ago, in MN, I was tasked to direct traffic to the parking lot for an event. I was at the ‘Y’. One way was the event parking area, the other way was the Scott Carver Food bank.

In Minn Cars/Trucks/Vans RUST !!!!

From 10 AM to 6PM, I (OBSERVED), about 70% of the cars etc, having NO RUST, New, and less than 5 years old, and many well dressed.
And about 30% (about) Older, Rusted, Bent panels, Smoking, Noisy mufflers, and common/working/ill fitting clothing.

The best was a NEW Suburban. Out came a Male & Female, both grossly overweight, and when they came out of the building, they BOTH had shopping carts FULL. They unloaded them, then went BACK inside, THREE MORE TIMES.

A, ‘Full Blown”, SOCIALIST,
Saying BS,
Is simply, ‘diddly squat”.

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Needles Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 316 AR Gender:	Re: GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, Reply #4 - Today at 06:15:33 Any single instance of "observed reality" is suspect. There is simply no way you can know what you think you know about what you're seeing. There are too many variables. That's why statistics exist. For all you know, the fat people in the Suburban were there to pick up allocations for a homeless shelter.
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Reply #5 - Today at 06:59:21

Any single instance of "observed reality" is suspect. There is simply no way you can know what you think you know about what you're seeing.

MnSpring is just intentionally misinterpreting things to avoid addressing the actual information presented.

The problem with your statistics argument is that when humans choose to use "Observed Reality" as a qualifier for accuracy: only statistics that align with their personal experience can be true.

So since MNSpring has Observed what he perceives is abuse at food banks, all information saying food banks are a waste is more than likely true in his Reality. As long as he refuses to Observe any information to the contrary he will always be right - in his Reality. The real benefit to Observed Reality is it maintains one's ego.

An example will be that no matter how many times it is clarified that nobody said Reality is not really real, MNSpring will not Observe that, so he can maintain that it was said, or as a workaround, he will claim it is "implied".

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10080 Minn Gender:	Re: GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, Reply #6 - Today at 07:22:29 Eegore wrote on Today at 06:59:21: *"... MnSpring is just intentionally misinterpreting things to avoid addressing the actual information presented. ..."* So wonderful that you know EXACTLY what I have seen and experienced. *(OH, you forgot to say, "..it is your opinion..")*
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 10080 Minn Gender:	Re: GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, Reply #7 - Today at 07:26:24 Eegore wrote on Today at 06:59:21: *"...There is simply no way you can know what you think you know about what you're seeing. ..."* I wonder if Abbot knows that. Perhaps OBSERVING the river rising, is not knowing the river is rising.
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Reply #8 - Today at 07:59:08

So wonderful that you know EXACTLY what I have seen and experienced.

(OH, you forgot to say, "..it is your opinion..")

I never said that. What you are quoting from me has nothing to do with that. This has nothing to do with what you have experienced.

My quote, that you are referencing, is an assessment of your actions here. This has nothing to do with what you have experienced.

My opinion is that you are intentionally misinterpreting what I have said. This has nothing to do with what you have experienced.

I never said Reality is not Real. I said Observed Reality is a poor qualifier for accuracy of data or references. Personal experience is not a reliable way to decide if data is accurate. I do not have to be a pilot, Observe a crash, Observe news of a crash, Observe there has every been a crash to understand that data from an aircraft crash can be accurate or inaccurate. A totality of information would have to be Observed to decide.

Observed reality is a poor qualifier for deciding how accurate something is. All I have to do is refuse to Observe certain things and now they are no longer part of my Observed Reality.

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Reply #9 - Today at 08:05:17

I wonder if Abbot knows that.
Perhaps OBSERVING the river rising,
is not knowing the river is rising.

This is another example of intentionally misinterpreting what I have said.

This human in your example is OBSERVING something and as such can accurately assess. However other human's can simply refuse to Observe the information.

Choosing to Observe only that man-made climate change causes rivers to rise and refusing to Observe all other natural causes of weather change will result in a Reality where rivers only rise from man-made climate change.

This human's Observed Reality is that rising rivers are man-made only.

Choosing to Observe that only natural climate change causes rivers to rise and refusing to Observe all other causes of weather change will result in a Reality where rivers only rise from natural climate change.

This human's Observed Reality is that rising rivers are natural cause only.

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