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Reply #15 - 06/05/25 at 11:32:25
 
Here is a tire size to rim fitment chart.

If you go outside of the fitment shown on this chart, you will be deforming the tire to a shape it is not supposed to have.

When you jam a wide tire on a narrow rim, the tread cross section becomes very round and the contact patch to the road is reduced.  Poor traction and accelerated wear is the result.
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Reply #16 - Today at 11:54:25
 
Has anyone ever used the portawalls ??? As I’ve read online that the ends fray and even some will wrinkle or like start to lift from the tire itself

Anyone ever used em to say how they are or work pr anything about em ??
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Reply #17 - Today at 14:18:39
 
Dave wrote on 06/05/25 at 11:32:25:
Here is a tire size to rim fitment chart.

If you go outside of the fitment shown on this chart, you will be deforming the tire to a shape it is not supposed to have.

When you jam a wide tire on a narrow rim, the tread cross section becomes very round and the contact patch to the road is reduced.  Poor traction and accelerated wear is the result.


Dave, can you explain this “the tread cross section becomes very round and the contact patch to the road is reduced”.

Would a lower aspect ratio adjust for some of the rounding?

Would a 180/55 have its contact patch reduced to something like a 160/60?

The chart seems to suggest a wider rim than is truly necessary as “STD”.

My Kawasaki Vulcan S 650 comes standard with a 160/60–17 on a 4.5” rim.  It’s in the acceptable range per the chart, but the chart suggest 5.0” would be the ideal standard.  Seems really big.  And for a 180/55, it’s kinda off the chart.  Implying it needs like a 6” rim or something.  Lots of guys are running the 180/55 on the stock 4.5” rim and rave about it.  Not my thing - I like the stock 160/60.

The chart seems biased towards rims wider than are truly necessary or optimal.

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Reply #18 - Today at 16:16:51
 
ThumperPaul wrote on Today at 14:18:39:
"can you explain ... the tread cross section becomes very round and the contact patch to the road is reduced”.

Here's a picture that attempts to explain this issue.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F45mm-tires-o...

Notice that the TALLER aspect ratio, with more sidewall material, can better adapt to a narrower rim width than can a lower aspect ratio.  This is reflected on the chart Dave posted.

We've had discussion of tire sizes and rim widths, but nobody has said what Rim Width the factory put on our Savages and S40s.  Can anybody state the factory rim sizes for the benefit of the group?  
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Reply #19 - Today at 16:23:20
 
Back Rim is 15x2.75
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Reply #21 - Today at 19:23:53
 
Interesting Easy Rider.  The dude in that other video sure had some issues with the 150/90.  Flatter fasteners on the inside of the fenders should eliminate any rubbing concerns.

Thanks Axman.  The info about the taller aspect ratio makes sense.  I'm still hung up on the chart suggesting you need like a 5.5+ inch rim for a 180-190 tire.  

Maybe reaching for info, but does a tubeless vs tube tire factor into this tire width/rim size fitment in any way?
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