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Camshafts for ls650 ?
05/23/25 at 18:06:32
 
so I’ve got a 08 Suzuki boulevard ls650 s40, and looking to maybe swap in a cam, something that would help with some extra chop in the idle.  Maybe even some more bottom end power.  Right now the bike is all stock except for a Emgo muffler, and wouldn’t mind having a better air filter for it as well.
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Re: Camshafts for ls650 ?
Reply #1 - 05/24/25 at 03:50:30
 
All of the available performance cams have very little valve overlap and they have no affect on how the engine idles - the engine idles and runs smoothly after installation.

The performance cams do add some torque and horsepower - they work even better with the addition of a Wiseco piston to increase the compression.

The available cams are the Webcam Stage 3 available from Lancer in the Marketplace section - or you could try and find a good used DR650 camshaft from the early model bikes.  If you use a DR650 camshaft you will have to drill oil holes in the lobes to use it in the Savage, and I also drill the center hole to match the size of the hole in the Savage cam.
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Reply #2 - 05/24/25 at 04:54:50
 
Ah, in other words I’m likely best to just leave it alone then lol unless I ever had to do the piston or something of such
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Reply #3 - 05/24/25 at 05:19:16
 
Not necessarily, a cam swap is not difficult if you have some basic mechanic skills.  A piston swap takes a bit more skill and a few more tools, and some more time, but is doable as well.  Many folks here have done both successfully.
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Reply #4 - 05/24/25 at 05:39:20
 
Swapping the cam would I really notice much difference ??
Like I did a stage 2 cam swap on a Honda 450r quad I had, and it made a big difference for mid to top end.
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Reply #5 - 05/24/25 at 16:37:46
 
This old post will give you a good idea of what to expect when you install a mild cam like the old DR650 cam.  As Dave previously mentioned, you absolutely must drill the oil holes.  Other than drilling the holes, the cam swap is very easy and can be accomplished with common hand tools.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1626391255

The old post also includes links to modifications to the air box, carb, and exhaust system.  Each old post measures acceleration so you can do comparisons of the before and after performance.  You will be amazed at the improvement.  Up to and including the cam swap, all the mods are low hanging fruit.

You can also find all this stuff in the Tech Section.
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Reply #6 - 05/25/25 at 09:47:49
 
I did some looking around and happen to come across the cam on Amazon 😮

https://a.co/d/eP6kvNO
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Reply #7 - 05/25/25 at 10:58:51
 
Holy "ZiKueeo".  Hey, it looks like it even has predrilled holes!

"Made of strong and wear-resistant materials, it adapts to a variety of driving environments, .....

I wonder what kind of "chinaesium"alloy" its made with.  Interesting that it adapts to a variety of drving environments.  I wonder what those buzz words strung together really mean.

Call me a cynical jaded skeptic.  But, its cheap so I might try it.  No reviews....
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Reply #8 - 05/25/25 at 11:07:44
 
Weird....it has oil holes in the cam lobes, and yet the original DR650 does not use those.

There is no information about lift or duration - who knows what they are?

It could be a cam for the LS650 - but they are promoting it for use in the DR650.

It is not something I would buy and take a gamble on.......it is anybody's guess what it is and what it is made from.
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Reply #9 - 05/25/25 at 22:56:18
 
Well look at you Easy Rider.  Score!  A knock-off cam and it actually looks close to correct.  Thanks for the link.  It inspired me to search Amazon a bit more and I came up with what looks to be the same cam for about $94 bucks.  I went ahead and ordered one.  They provide an illustration with dimensions.  Only one dimension was different than a stock cam (28.3mm steady bearing vs 25mm).  I'm hoping that is a typo.  All the other dimensions look to be OK (not perfect but OK).

The cam should be here no later than July 1st.  When I get it I will do a full dimensional inspection along with timing checks.  We shall see what zhengzhoujiafeimaoyl is up to.  Are they rascals selling junk or is this a legit replacement.

I don't need a new cam, but I'm always game for a good product report.  It's cheap enough so why not.  This is the link for the $94 buck item.

[url]Amazon.com: ZHAHggGo Suitable for D R650 R650RE R650S R650SE R650SM R650RSE R 650 R S 1990-1996 Model Motorcycle Camshaft 12711-12D00 SP44B : Automotive[/url]

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Reply #10 - 05/25/25 at 22:58:39
 
Don't know why the link isn't active.  Let's try another way.

https://www.amazon.com/ZHAHggGo-Suitable-1990-1996-Motorcycle-12711-12D00/dp/...
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Reply #11 - 05/26/25 at 07:51:57
 
DragBikeMike is the perfect guy to look/measure this "Chinesium" cam and see what it is.

Seems odd that they drilled holes in a cam meant for the DR650.....the stock Suzuki DR650 cams don't have holes.

DragBikeMike wrote on 05/25/25 at 22:56:18:
They provide an illustration with dimensions.  Only one dimension was different than a stock cam (28.3mm steady bearing vs 25mm).  I'm hoping that is a typo.  All the other dimensions look to be OK (not perfect but OK).


If I view the photo and hold a straight edge against the 25mm bearing surface in the middle of the cam - it seems to show that the steady bearing surface is indeed larger (28.3mm) than the inner bearing surface.
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Reply #12 - 05/26/25 at 12:02:35
 
Well that be awesome to see how true it is, and maybe they added oil holes to make it more sufficient ?? And the price difference you found compared to what i posted is that im in Canada and youre likely the states
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Reply #13 - 05/26/25 at 17:40:36
 
DragBikeMike wrote on 05/25/25 at 22:56:18:
Well look at you Easy Rider...
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Reply #14 - 05/27/25 at 06:18:23
 
Looking forward to see how this cam is dragbikemike and whether it actually worth the 130$ for it to have in my bike Smiley)) lol or if it garbage lol
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