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Reply #45 - 05/08/25 at 09:10:53
 
It would have to be something verified by a Non-pro-MAGA source, and it would have to be according to real scientific method--- call it REAL evidence. For instance:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/oklahoma-2020-election-fraud-theories/?utm_...
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Reply #46 - 05/08/25 at 13:17:50
 
"... REAL evidence ..."

Does NOT come from snopes.

(and a host of other, UL, DFI, WOKE, FDS, 'real socialists', """ news """ programs)
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #47 - 05/09/25 at 05:29:25
 
MnSpring wrote on 05/08/25 at 13:17:50:
"... REAL evidence ..."

Does NOT come from snopes.

(and a host of other, UL, DFI, WOKE, FDS, 'real socialists', """ news """ programs)


YES, it does. Where do you think the link takes you? I'm being accused of ignoring "proof", when YOU are denying reality.

Since you went down that rabbit hole, I'll admit, 97% of the poorest counties in the US are in red counties in red states, is WRONG. It's only 93%.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/jul/29/facebook-posts/are-97-natio...

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Reply #48 - 05/09/25 at 06:37:08
 
Needles wrote on 05/09/25 at 05:29:25:
"... ignoring "proof"..."


Ya know, haven't found any Ocean Front lots in AR yet.

BUT, I will certainly let you know as soon as I do.

Cause I KNOW, you will buy some !
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #49 - 05/09/25 at 07:56:18
 
Needles wrote on 05/09/25 at 05:29:25:
MnSpring wrote on 05/08/25 at 13:17:50:
"... REAL evidence ..."

Does NOT come from snopes.

(and a host of other, UL, DFI, WOKE, FDS, 'real socialists', """ news """ programs)


YES, it does. Where do you think the link takes you? I'm being accused of ignoring "proof", when YOU are denying reality.

Since you went down that rabbit hole, I'll admit, 97% of the poorest counties in the US are in red counties in red states, is WRONG. It's only 93%.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/jul/29/facebook-posts/are-97-natio...



That doesn’t mean what you think it does.
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Reply #50 - 05/09/25 at 08:13:06
 
[quote author=6F4C7152504B4C45220 link=1746048661/45#46 date=1746735470]"... REAL evidence ..."

Does NOT come from snopes

anything that disagrees with your deluded concepts cannot be real
maga kool-aide tells you to say that
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Reply #51 - 05/09/25 at 09:42:01
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/09/25 at 07:56:18:
That doesn’t mean what you think it does.

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Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
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Reply #52 - 05/09/25 at 11:37:00
 
It would have to be something verified by a Non-pro-MAGA source, and it would have to be according to real scientific method--- call it REAL evidence. For instance:

 I understand having a reliable source.  I was more so thinking what would you consider improving the lives of normal US citizens?  Theoretically one could pull up tons of actions Trump has made that in their mind is improvement but you may not consider their idea of improvement to match yours.

 Like is the general reduction in illegal crossings at the Southern US border an "improvement" specifically for the US citizens who don't have as many illegal immigrants moving through their privately owned property now?  This is a provable statistic, however you might not consider fewer trespassers on another US citizen's land to be an improvement.  
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Reply #53 - 05/09/25 at 14:37:02
 
That actually happened under Biden. Pay attention to the DATES.

I'm not talking about MAGATs patting themselves on the back over imaginary wins. I mean, increase in purchasing power, lowering costs in stores, or having MORE freedom, not LESS, like the freedom to vote. Things that can be MEASURED.
Take school meals, daycare, or Medicaid--- those save lots of low income people MONEY.
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Reply #54 - 05/09/25 at 16:02:05
 

That actually happened under Biden. Pay attention to the DATES.

 I suppose that depends on how you want to do the math.  In the example I provided, the timeline was Jan 29 2025 to May 01 2025.  There has been a reduction in reported trespassing on private land along the Southern US border.  This data is a combination of  CBP/FBI, NG, private video footage, and cellphone pings that are geo-verified.  Also my shop-lead owns land in Southern AZ so there's decades of anecdotal evidence, however I do not include that data in my analysis.

However if one wants to compare reported trespassing in larger timeframes, especially one's during Biden's term, then yes there would be reductions then as well.


I mean, increase in purchasing power, lowering costs in stores, or having MORE freedom, not LESS, like the freedom to vote. Things that can be MEASURED.
Take school meals, daycare, or Medicaid--- those save lots of low income people MONEY.


 Ok thanks for the clarification.  I do find that multiple US citizens do benefit, measurably, by Trump actions, however those numbers are is more flux than what would be average for a POTUS in a second term.  
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Reply #55 - Yesterday at 03:46:04
 
The idea that Biden did anything other than encourage illegal immigration is TDS blindness. Of course he did. We all know why. Their dream was to somehow grant citizenship to these peoples, who would likely be Democratic voters. Duh…

And the question has been asked what has Trump done for poor people, well, this is probably the biggest thing. Improving border security is huge for lower and lower middle class America.
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