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Reply #180 - 05/30/25 at 15:38:42
 
Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum responded to Trump’s threats with a backhand:

"So, you voted to build a wall.

Well, dear Americans, even if geography isn’t your strong suit—since you consider America a country rather than a continent—you should know that beyond that wall, there are 7 billion people.

And since the word 'people' might not resonate with you, let’s call them 'consumers.' These 7 billion consumers can switch from iPhones to Samsung or Huawei in less than two days. They can swap Levi’s for Zara or Massimo Dutti and, within six months, replace Ford and Chevrolet with Toyota, KIA, Mazda, Honda, Hyundai, Volvo, Subaru, Renault, or BMW—brands that often outperform in quality.

They can cancel Direct TV, and though they might not want to, they can stop watching Hollywood films in favor of higher-quality productions from Latin America or Europe, which offer richer narratives and better cinematography.

Believe it or not, people can skip Disney and instead visit the Xcaret resort in Cancun, or explore destinations in Mexico, Canada, South America, and Europe. Even in Mexico, you’ll find better hamburgers than McDonald's, with superior nutritional value.

Have you ever seen pyramids in the U.S.? Egypt, Mexico, Peru, Guatemala, and Sudan all have ancient wonders—none of them in the U.S. If they did, Trump would probably have bought and sold them by now.

We know that Nike isn’t the only sneaker brand—there’s Adidas, and even Mexican brands like Panam. We understand the economy more than you think.

And we also know that if these 7 billion consumers stop buying American products, unemployment will rise, and your economy—trapped within its self-imposed wall—will crumble to the point where you'll beg us to tear it down.

We didn’t want to do this, but...

You wanted a wall? Well, you got one."

And this is just the beginning of the foreign fallout coming our way compliments of our Führer. Thanks again, MAGATS! You own this and what is to come!
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Reply #181 - 05/30/25 at 15:57:10
 

Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum responded to Trump’s threats with a backhand:

 This false narrative started in 2017 and has been debunked multiple times.  The recent 2025 version has some changes, but none of them true.

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Reply #182 - 05/30/25 at 16:14:35
 
According to the 14th Amendment, 47 is in office illegally':

Section 3

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."


They did not vote to allow him to run. His "presidency" is null and void.
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Reply #183 - 05/30/25 at 16:43:31
 
 What about due process?  Should it apply to humans acquitted of an allegation as according to every single judgement and assessment of acquittal outcomes in the entire history of the US judicial system?  

Acquittal signifies that a court has made a formal decision that the defendant is not guilty of the charges.  No other outcome exists.

 The US Senate acquitted Trump on the article of impeachment related to incitement of insurrection in the January 6th Capitol riot by vote on February 13, 2021.  Part of due process.

The House did impeach him on that article however The US Senate vote was short of the two-thirds majority needed for conviction.

 Therefore if we use the actual outcomes of due process- Trump was not convicted of the federal charges related to the January 6th riot.  All federal prosecution against him was dismissed in November 2024.

 According to the 14th Amendment, 47 requires no vote to run as he was officially, by means of due process, formally acquitted.  They would have been voting to allow a human formally declared not guilty of the crime to run for a position.  This would have been a direct violation of the US Constitution, and a blatant disregard for due process.  I get it, Trump was complicit but we have to accept due process even if if the outcome is something we do not like.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S4-4-9/ALDE_00000035/
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Reply #184 - 05/31/25 at 07:58:19
 
Acquitted is not the same as deciding to stop proceedings. 47 was NOT "acquitted". Those federal charges still stand. He was also found guilty of 34 FELONY offenses. Ignoring the courts is not the same as acquittal, either.

47, by definition, is a criminal, and should not have been allowed to run. The Senate is NOT a court. They are more like a grand jury, and only let him off because of the GOP majority. If the vote had been honest, he would be actually tried in a federal court. (And been found guilty.)
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Reply #185 - 05/31/25 at 09:32:10
 
 Acquitted is not the same as deciding to stop proceedings. 47 was NOT "acquitted". Those federal charges still stand. He was also found guilty of 34 FELONY offenses. Ignoring the courts is not the same as acquittal, either.

47, by definition, is a criminal, and should not have been allowed to run. The Senate is NOT a court. They are more like a grand jury, and only let him off because of the GOP majority. If the vote had been honest, he would be actually tried in a federal court. (And been found guilty.)



 The US Constitution, that you obviously aren't looking at, clearly indicates that the Senate IS the court that holds the trial. There is no secondary process with another Federal court for articles of impeachment.  Direct from the US Constitution:

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

If Trump had been impeached and convicted it would have been by the Senate in exclusivity.  Would you be making this same argument then?  Would you actually be saying the Senate is NOT a court had they convicted Trump?
 I don't know where you are getting this information, or if you are just making it up in your head, but empirical evidence from non-MAGA sources clearly indicate your assessment of impeachment process is incorrect.



 A simple breakdown with images of the impeachment process:

https://www.usa.gov/impeachment

 Notice step 3:  The Senate holds an impeachment trial. In the case of a president, the U.S. Supreme Court chief justice presides.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S2-C5-1/ALDE_00000030/

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S4-1/ALDE_00000282/

https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-ii/clauses/349
 
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Reply #186 - 05/31/25 at 15:05:13
 
The backlash against Trump's fascism has started a civil response against what appears to be a Trump illegal war against brown people, intellectuals, political opponents, fact-based journalists and, soon, you and me.
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ICE's HSI unit conducted a raid at a popular restaurant in San Diego's South Park neighborhood. About 3 dozen agents, some in full tactical gear, arrested restaurant workers while patrons there and around the area were enjoying dinner. The federal agents didn't expect a resounding rejection by the neighbors and patrons. The community spontaneously protested the ICE agents. ICE discharged three flash-bang grenades to disperse the crowd.  The people instead pushed ICE agents out of their community forcing the vehicles to retreat, shouting anti-fascist slogans. This is the way it should be everywhere.
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Reply #187 - 05/31/25 at 15:06:15
 
Eegore. Unprecedented. Look it up.
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Reply #188 - 05/31/25 at 16:05:49
 
Eegore. Unprecedented. Look it up.

 I'm familiar.  Nothing, absolutely nothing in the US Constitution indicates that the US Senate does not make the final decision regarding impeachment.  It does however specifically indicate how it applies to the POTUS.

 It literally outlines the procedure for use regarding the US President.  The argument that it never happened before is flawed for two reasons:

1:  It has happened before, Presidents have been impeached for crimes with Senate vote.  No other crimes apply to this per US law.  That would literally be unconstitutional.

2:  Precedent has never been required to apply law.  Nothing about Trump justifies making up new ways to apply the laws today.


 Also nothing about your argument regarding Article 1 Section 2 indicates a difference in contemporary application.  Your statement "The Senate is NOT a court." is clearly you not understanding it is the Sole power/court regarding impeachment of the POTUS and no other Federal court is involved.  Your "he would be actually tried in a federal court" assessment is wrong.  Nothing about "precedent" changes the fact you claimed something that is factually incorrect and provable as such with volumes of empirical data.

 Your precedent defense does not apply.  You simply do not look at procedure before you claim to know what it is.  Trump can be a criminal without making up imaginary legal procedures and ways to make it apply uniquely to Trump and no other human.
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Reply #189 - Yesterday at 07:08:41
 
Since 47 filled ALL of his key positions with sycophants, your argument is specious at best. NONE of the MAGATs are even capable of objectivism. So, your arguments seem solid to you, because real justice cannot happen under MAGAT control. They'll simply vote in 47's favor, since they are bona fide buttlickers. Most of them are too stupid to BE in the offices they hold. The only thing they know about law is what Don TACO has told them. The only way justice can be served is when he is no longer in office. He's not going to be railroaded; he'll just have to comply with justice. If he lives through this term, he'll be imprisoned, simple as that. HE IS A LYING CRIMINAL AND TRAITOR. That is a fact. You worship a devil.
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Reply #190 - Yesterday at 08:17:51
 
 You worship a devil. [/quote]  

a lot of that goes on here

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Since 47 filled ALL of his key positions with sycophants, your argument is specious at best.


 You literally are arguing that the only known procedure for impeachment involves another step involving a Federal court and you call my argument spacious.  This is nothing more than you not liking the results of the vote, so you try to find ways to make it invalid.  This is understandable but making up BS about what the US Constitution says is a weak and easily disproved argument.

 I don't like the results either - but I'm not going to post lies and imagined Constitutional structures of the US Judicial system to support it.  


NONE of the MAGATs are even capable of objectivism. So, your arguments seem solid to you, because real justice cannot happen under MAGAT control.

 Then the procedure is to enact Amendments to the US Constitution - not make up new rules on the fly.  You are literally just making things up (or reposting lies from social media).  


HE IS A LYING CRIMINAL AND TRAITOR. That is a fact. You worship a devil.

 I don't think he should be in office either.  The difference is I'm not going to use lies and made up legal procedures like you do to support my views.  Lay off the YouTube or whatever and look up some actual applications and procedures of the US Constitution.  Arguments based in truth go a lot further than the categorically false information you are bringing up.
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Reply #192 - Yesterday at 15:42:00
 
None of that has worked yet. I could start lying today, and lie every ten minutes from now on, and 47 would still lead me by THOUSANDS of lies.  47 and ALL of his supporters should be in jail. Actually, even that is not enough. After the attempted coup on January 6, if this were 100 years ago, they'd have all been hanged within the month. Everybody KNOWS that is truth, no matter how MAGATs try to reframe the narrative. I want the SOB and his sycophants GONE. If I have to lie to get rid of him, so be it. Pointing out the truth has no effect on his buttlickers, so maybe lying is what morons understand. We'll see.
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Reply #193 - Yesterday at 16:03:51
 
After the attempted coup on January 6, if this were 100 years ago, they'd have all been hanged within the month. Everybody KNOWS that is truth, no matter how MAGATs try to reframe the narrative.

 100 years ago was 1925.  Prior to that the procedure clearly outlined in the US Constitution was followed to impeach a US president.  I can find no record of less than 30 day hangings in the US due to attempted coup, sedition or insurrection, especially in the 20th Century.  Can you provide any reference or was that a lie too?



If I have to lie to get rid of him, so be it. Pointing out the truth has no effect on his buttlickers, so maybe lying is what morons understand. We'll see.

 So you are posting obvious lies on here so that a few members here "understand" what?  That you don't like Trump or think he should be in office?  You are intentionally using lies to help them better understand your opinion?

 I think you just copy/paste what you see online and don't bother to educate yourself before defending your own statements.
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Reply #194 - Yesterday at 16:11:56
 
Needles wrote on Yesterday at 15:42:00:
None of that has worked yet. I could start lying today, and lie every ten minutes from now on, and 47 would still lead me by THOUSANDS of lies.  47 and ALL of his supporters should be in jail. Actually, even that is not enough. After the attempted coup on January 6, if this were 100 years ago, they'd have all been hanged within the month. Everybody KNOWS that is truth, no matter how MAGATs try to reframe the narrative. I want the SOB and his sycophants GONE. If I have to lie to get rid of him, so be it. Pointing out the truth has no effect on his buttlickers, so maybe lying is what morons understand. We'll see.


This is the type of person who key Teslas, locks police officers in their building and sets it on fire, wear masks and attacks within the safety of large mobs……or the ultimate personification of a keyboard warrior.

Not 100% positive but I got a good guess.
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