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Did I put the float bowl in wrong??
04/22/25 at 16:18:51

So, rough riding s40, took apart the carb, soaked it and parts in Berryman, got a new mixture screw, new air filter, put it all together, and now it just keeps trying to turn over but won't catch. Did I jig the float bowl backwards or something lol ?? Embarrassed

If that is the case and I have to take it out again, I may as well probably get one of the rebuild kits. Also a new float? Looked like that one in there 20 years. How important is a new float and needle in maintenance?

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28983 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong?? Reply #1 - 04/22/25 at 20:35:59 sounds like quasi no go take a look at carb specs in the tech section index, it's a good ref for how parts go together. it's not uncommon to swap the jets around when putting it back together. also, after a rebuild, I always have a hard time getting it to start the 1st time, shoot some starter fluid in the throat.
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quasimogo YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong?? Reply #2 - 04/23/25 at 05:49:12 Cool. Thanks. I'll check all this out and try to fire it again after work.
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Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong??
Reply #3 - 04/24/25 at 13:54:08

Ok, tried the gas. Went back into the carb from the bottom this time and checked the float - pics attached. Seems on right to me. My buddy was here and he said looks good (tho he's no Savage owner). Check the spring - pin goes up n' down. Reset the jets - gently turned it clockwise until it seats (didn't force it or overtighten)
Then backed it out about 1.5-2 turns counterclockwise

Made this adjustment, reassembled the carburetor completely, and try starting the engine again. This very well could be the main issue preventing your engine from starting.Nada. Sheeeit Angry

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quasimogo YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong?? Reply #4 - 04/24/25 at 14:00:56 Oddly - there was no fuel in the lower chamber when I removed it to look at the float - should there have been?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28983 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong?? Reply #5 - 04/24/25 at 17:41:46 yes, with floats in it, it should be full while it's out, put a bowl under the carb and turn the petcock to on or prime gas should flow, figure out how much gas should flow at 50mph at 50mpg and you should be getting more than twice as much.
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quasimogo YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong?? Reply #6 - 04/24/25 at 17:46:00 Ah! So that is suspect. I have a non-vacuum petcock in there right now. So, I have the gas line hooked to the carb, the top nipple (same side) capped (since no vacuum) the other two with lines going down connected to nothing. Maybe my tubing on the carb was wrong. I will scour the pages here. My tubes must be wacky.
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Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong??
Reply #7 - 04/24/25 at 18:31:45

Ok, well I really didn't find what I was looking for, which was a visual diagram. But I did find these. In this first one there is a line running down from the bottom a) I do not have that. In the second photo there are numbers regarding the jets, b) I just snugged them down except for the mixture screw, which I snugged then went back 1.75 turns, and the third one shows two more vacuum lines with that strange note c) not sure if I even did that. First photo here...

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quasimogo YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong?? Reply #8 - 04/24/25 at 18:32:12 Second here....
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quasimogo YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong?? Reply #9 - 04/24/25 at 18:32:38 And third here...
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quasimogo YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong?? Reply #10 - 04/24/25 at 18:33:55 If anyone is following this thread, I did end up getting a rebuild kit since it seems I am in the unfortunate position to remove it (at least) one more time. More to follow...
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28983 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong?? Reply #11 - 04/24/25 at 21:11:00 Be careful with the jets, it looks like you have a pre'88 carb and most rebuild kits will have different jets and I don't think they'll be wholly compatible with your year carb. I would keep the original jets, just clean the hell out of them.
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quasimogo YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong?? Reply #12 - 04/25/25 at 07:48:18 It's actually a 2005 S40. Unless of course the previous owner swapped out an older carb before I got it.
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quasimogo YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong?? Reply #13 - 04/25/25 at 12:04:46 While I have everything off again, I will also put a uni UP-4229A on. I believe the 4" will fit.
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quasimogo YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 16	Re: Did I put the float bowl in wrong?? Reply #14 - Yesterday at 09:49:20 The saga continues. Replaced this while I wait for my Unis. (Still didn't start though.)
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