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Reply #15 - 02/18/25 at 18:23:35
 
Why does it need investigated?
I have it on good authority it's been debunked.
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Reply #16 - 02/18/25 at 20:26:13
 

Why does it need investigated?
I have it on good authority it's been debunked.


 If 400 million humans are getting SS payments, that should be investigated.  That should take about 1 minute because SS would be bankrupt in about 30 seconds if it were true.

 The real question is why one even attempts to pass any of this along as fact to begin with.
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Reply #17 - 02/19/25 at 02:42:24
 
I'm curious about real numbers.

Because the problem is that otherwise we will start beating each other over the head with lies, as is the culture in America.
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Reply #18 - 02/19/25 at 04:27:36
 
The sun will rise tomorrow, and there are people out there cheating Social Security. Those two are absolute facts. I could look on various websites, and know exactly what time the sun will rise tomorrow wherever I am in the world. However, how much social security money is being stolen is unknown but I’m sure if we knew the true amount, we would be shocked.

People steal money. I think I’ve mentioned this on here before, but I put on three company golf tournaments that were fundraisers. One was a fundraiser for warehouse worker stricken with cancer. He was basically a lump of flesh at the time and died a couple months later. It was a fun raiser for his widow to be and a couple kids.

If you’ve never played in an event like this, you can win extra money by closest to the hole, longest putt, longest drive, etc. and events like these, everybody donates the prize back into the pot. But these three SOBs customers from Philadelphia, who were playing behind us, repeatedly cheated. I saw them. I told the owner of our company, but he did not want to call them out in front of everyone. And they did not donate the gift cards back to the pot. If I remember, they were $100 Visa gift cards.

The point is, the number of people who are stealing Social Security checks from dead people will be shocking. Let’s just wait and see what the actual numbers are.
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Reply #19 - 02/19/25 at 07:03:48
 
The tally shows around 60 million more numbers than total population. How many checks are going out? We'll see. I saw an explanation for how a number could be really old and it seemed reasonable. Not two hundred, but old. If I see it again, ill drop it in here.
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Reply #20 - 02/19/25 at 10:34:38
 

The point is, the number of people who are stealing Social Security checks from dead people will be shocking. Let’s just wait and see what the actual numbers are.


 People are often surprised by the number of ethics committees I have sat in to decide the outcome of a patient who is being kept alive on machines so the family can collect checks often surprises people.
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Reply #21 - 02/19/25 at 15:09:54
 
Eegore wrote on 02/19/25 at 10:34:38:
"... kept alive on machines so the family can collect checks often surprises people.  


When my Mother passed away,
it was on the last day of the Month.

SS required that the entire month was repaid.

(Guess it is money for the the cheaters, liers, and those that put their dead Gramma in the closet so the checks keep coming).
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #22 - 02/19/25 at 15:28:37
 

When my Mother passed away,
it was on the last day of the Month.

SS required that the entire month was repaid.

(Guess it is money for the the cheaters, liers, and those that put their dead Gramma in the closet so the checks keep coming).



 Or the 400 million dead humans on that list.
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Reply #23 - 02/20/25 at 08:43:07
 
IDK,, it just seems like E is trying to convince us
Nothing to see here.
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Reply #24 - 02/20/25 at 11:30:38
 
IDK,, it just seems like E is trying to convince us
Nothing to see here.


 I never said anything like that.  Again this is nothing more than your refusal to accept anything beyond absolute agreement.

 I said the database being used is not a payment record but should be investigated.  It should be investigated.  It has over 400 million names so it's implausible that those are all being paid out.

 It should be investigated though.  To be clear since it seems you won't Observe this: I think it should be investigated, it should be investigated.

 Nothing about that indicates in any way that there is nothing to see.  This is no different than you thinking I would research reports on graphene to "control" a forum post instead of researching the information to see what the information actually said.  

 You really think these posts are more important than they are.
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Reply #25 - 02/20/25 at 13:03:29
 
it's implausible that those are all being paid out
Obviously
But seeing what the database is and not expecting it to be a source of massive fraud is beyond naive.
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Reply #26 - 02/20/25 at 13:41:26
 

But seeing what the database is and not expecting it to be a source of massive fraud is beyond naive.

 Possibly as we all know SS fraud is rampant.  What I want to know is why they chose this one to release to the public, knowing it is inaccurate, and closed as an actual resource.  Public outcry and support is my assessment.

 So I'm not sure this actual database is a source beyond it being a blanket span of hundreds of millions - so the odds are good it will have some fraud.  I'd want to see the actual payment database as I feel that is a better resource.
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Reply #27 - 02/20/25 at 14:48:33
 
knowing it is inaccurate,
It's a DATABASE. In the Government Database. Reporting what IS is important. How is a DATABASE inaccurate? It says what it has been fed. It's exactly what it is. Cooked Books. It's a means to steal our money. And YOU naturally want to pretend it's not important. It's more than you want everyone to believe.
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Reply #28 - 02/20/25 at 15:24:21
 
[quote  How is a DATABASE inaccurate?

when it's not kept up to date...
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Reply #29 - 02/20/25 at 15:59:43
 

And YOU naturally want to pretend it's not important.

 I never said that, I said it should be investigated. It should be investigated.  Your inability to accept anything other than blind absolute agreement with your stance prohibits you from having an adult discussion.  It's important, it should be investigated.  I want to see payments, not a DATABASE of 400 million humans that obviously are not all being paid.  


It's a DATABASE. In the Government Database. Reporting what IS is important. How is a DATABASE inaccurate?

 I have a DATABASE of employee payroll from 2005.  None of those employees are employed by me anymore - some are dead.  Is that DATABASE a current accurate payroll database?

 I have a DATABASE of all employees I have ever had, from 2005 to today.  Is that an accurate DATABASE of current employee payroll?  Would it be accurate for someone to claim I am paying a lot of Vampires or Zombies because I have a DATABASE with dead employees names on it?

 DATABASE is not equal to accurate.
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