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Re: Cameras
Reply #15 - 02/03/25 at 14:56:34
 
ThumperPaul wrote on 02/03/25 at 12:43:37:
blod wrote on 02/03/25 at 12:22:25:
ThumperPaul wrote on 02/03/25 at 12:15:06:
A) because you look and seem like an a-hole
B) walking around filming and being a jerk is disturbing
C) your intention and motivation is unknown
D) All of the above.

D is the best answer.


If any of those things disturb you then you need help from a trick cyclist.


You asked the question.  I simply gave you a few possible answers.  You’re clearly a pathetic jerk.  Funny for your disturbed self maybe, but the guy you find funny and attempt to mock by posting video on a public forum on the internet isn’t amused by your childish hobby.  Hope you’re really enjoying yourself.  I’ll just sit here and wait for karma to kick in.


Your answers made no sense whatsoever, and they are still not making any sense.    

Cameras are everywhere and watching you constantly, one more makes no difference, but I doubt you will ever be able to realize that.

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Reply #16 - Yesterday at 06:59:30
 
I can't think of any hobby more peaceful than photography
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Reply #17 - Yesterday at 07:00:43
 
blod wrote on 02/03/25 at 07:25:09:
TheBabyDerp wrote on 02/03/25 at 07:06:49:
Attend the mass. Don't take communion though.

Converting to Catholicism was the best decision I ever made.

As for your hobby, I would be careful. Blur out brand names for sure. And if you are monetizing it, expect the possibility of being sued. If someone had a public recording of myself in a documentary that was monetized, I would demand payment or otherwise I would sue.



It will not be monetized, it's just for fun Smiley

Why did you convert to Catholicism , and what did you convert from ?



This is the cafe section, so due to the rules, I can't really dive too deep and give a full answer, but a quick summary will suffice to answer your questions. I was raised Pentecostal, but parents didn't go to Church much at all. I was non-practicing and pretty much left Christianity. Identified as agnostic or no religion and lived a lifestyle that paid no heed to anything religious or spiritual. Years of research led to me accepting Jesus Christ's claim that He is God alongside the authority of the Roman Pontiff and here I am now. I haven't even been officially Catholic for a year. Sorry, I can't really give enough details on this thread/section. I would have to write a mini novel, and I wouldn't feel right doing so without listing my sources as well.

As for your hobby, the fact that you are not monetizing it does prevent many legal issues down the road. I will say though. The governments do not decide what is morally right or wrong. Walking up to people with a camera in their face has the potential to be harassment from a moral perspective. People don't like to be harassed or antagonized. There is always the potential for you to be attacked. There's a few Youtubers that drive around to different towns showcasing the town in a documentary format, interviewing people with their permission, etc. There is a right way to do it, and a wrong way to do it. I would recommend learning from people who already do it.
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Reply #18 - Yesterday at 07:11:14
 
TheBabyDerp wrote on Yesterday at 07:00:43:
blod wrote on 02/03/25 at 07:25:09:
TheBabyDerp wrote on 02/03/25 at 07:06:49:
Attend the mass. Don't take communion though.

Converting to Catholicism was the best decision I ever made.

As for your hobby, I would be careful. Blur out brand names for sure. And if you are monetizing it, expect the possibility of being sued. If someone had a public recording of myself in a documentary that was monetized, I would demand payment or otherwise I would sue.



It will not be monetized, it's just for fun Smiley

Why did you convert to Catholicism , and what did you convert from ?



This is the cafe section, so due to the rules, I can't really dive too deep and give a full answer, but a quick summary will suffice to answer your questions. I was raised Pentecostal, but parents didn't go to Church much at all. I was non-practicing and pretty much left Christianity. Identified as agnostic or no religion and lived a lifestyle that paid no heed to anything religious or spiritual. Years of research led to me accepting Jesus Christ's claim that He is God alongside the authority of the Roman Pontiff and here I am now. I haven't even been officially Catholic for a year. Sorry, I can't really give enough details on this thread/section. I would have to write a mini novel, and I wouldn't feel right doing so without listing my sources as well.

As for your hobby, the fact that you are not monetizing it does prevent many legal issues down the road. I will say though. The governments do not decide what is morally right or wrong. Walking up to people with a camera in their face has the potential to be harassment from a moral perspective. People don't like to be harassed or antagonized. There is always the potential for you to be attacked. There's a few Youtubers that drive around to different towns showcasing the town in a documentary format, interviewing people with their permission, etc. There is a right way to do it, and a wrong way to do it. I would recommend learning from people who already do it.


From my experience the right way to do it is to remain silent at all times, it's impossible to get into an argument when you don't speak, ( though that seems to piss people off too  ) and never stick a camera in someone's face.

    What is "in someone's face " exactly ?
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Reply #19 - Yesterday at 07:42:43
 

 I think when it comes down to filming in public, and specifically in public, the most defining parameter is general courtesy - which the filmmaker has no obligation to provide.  So yeah the public can just deal with it.

 I find that humans that film others that do not want to be filmed as a "documentary" of their area are really only documenting the general aversion the average human can have to being suddenly filmed - which is pretty universal and not unique to that town/city/location etc.  It becomes nothing more than a prank-style film and limits the ability for someone watching to see or learn anything about the area or people.

   Someone driving slow in the fast lane doesn't bother me at all, but I do not do the same using my lack of concern as an analogue for all humans.  I noticed once while helping a friend move film equipment that a man seemed very distraught at a pizza place, like severely panicked.  I assisted him in getting out a side door as he was literally panicked by all the camera equipment out front.  Turns out, as he fought back tears and thanked me - that he was forced to commit sex-acts on film as a boy.  So I guess we never know why someone doesn't want to be on camera - no matter how little it might bother us.
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Reply #20 - Yesterday at 07:53:18
 
Eegore wrote on Yesterday at 07:42:43:
 I think when it comes down to filming in public, and specifically in public, the most defining parameter is general courtesy - which the filmmaker has no obligation to provide.  So yeah the public can just deal with it.

 I find that humans that film others that do not want to be filmed as a "documentary" of their area are really only documenting the general aversion the average human can have to being suddenly filmed - which is pretty universal and not unique to that town/city/location etc.  It becomes nothing more than a prank-style film and limits the ability for someone watching to see or learn anything about the area or people.

   Someone driving slow in the fast lane doesn't bother me at all, but I do not do the same using my lack of concern as an analogue for all humans.  I noticed once while helping a friend move film equipment that a man seemed very distraught at a pizza place, like severely panicked.  I assisted him in getting out a side door as he was literally panicked by all the camera equipment out front.  Turns out, as he fought back tears and thanked me - that he was forced to commit sex-acts on film as a boy.  So I guess we never know why someone doesn't want to be on camera - no matter how little it might bother us.


You make pretty good points, and I agree. Regardless of legality, it is an not a very nice person move to randomly film people while walking around. Even if you don't care about being an not a very nice person, there is still a chance you run into a crazy person who could hurt you.
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Reply #21 - Yesterday at 08:51:48
 
Eegore wrote on Yesterday at 07:42:43:

I find that humans that film others that do not want to be filmed as a "documentary" of their area are really only documenting the general aversion the average human can have to being suddenly filmed - which is pretty universal and not unique to that town/city/location etc.  It becomes nothing more than a prank-style film and limits the ability for someone watching to see or learn anything about the area or people.


The documentary I am making in my local town is an unannounced  silent documentary.  It is a completely honest and unbiassed.
 The people decide for themselves how they will react, I offer no guidance.  

I have only just started the project, so far I have documented four business, three passed with flying colours, and I am sure they will be happy to be featured in  the documentary , one not  so much Grin

So far the horse pigs have not been involved, but I doubt that will always be the case. If they do get involved they will also get the silent treatment

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Reply #22 - Today at 08:29:35
 
I went to the town council meeting yesterday evening, I brought it to a complete stand still just by walking in and not saying a word.  The power of silence is greater than I ever expected.
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Reply #23 - Today at 11:05:56
 

 Isn't it the power of the camera?  

 If you went in without the camera and remained silent would they have reacted the same you think?  I couldn't say.  

 We get a lot of "1st Amendment" audits looking for clout on YouTube in the US and many attribute their presence and questions to the reactions when I highly doubt that since there's essentially no hidden camera videos getting the same reactions.  It's the recording device that stirs people up.  

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