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Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Reply #15 - 12/21/24 at 14:04:37
 
ThumperPaul wrote on 12/21/24 at 12:04:31:
Pretty cool.  Will Canada let you import it from China?  

I used to import little 49cc 2-stroke dirt bikes from China thru Alibaba.  I could get those into the States without a problem, but anything bigger or street bike, was a big no way!  Oh yeah, I did get a handful of 125cc dirt bikes into the country.  Grandson still has one (beat to heck, but it still runs).


That sidecar weighs 275 lbs, it is what I would call substantial.    I can get the sidecar for not a lot of money.

  As sidecars are not classed as vehicles here they are unregulated.

 I can get them to send me a black one which would suit the Savage  better.

If I'm happy with it I will get a second one for my other bike.

I'm amazed at how China has got industrialized and modernized, the things they make now and the quality is excellent.
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Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Reply #16 - 12/21/24 at 16:28:19
 
When you said "with 200cc bike", I thought you were talk about the entire bike w/sidecar.

We could probably get just the sidecar here too.  "Machine parts"....

Yeah, 275lbs is definitely a substanial load!

Go for it!
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Reply #17 - 12/21/24 at 19:23:11
 
ThumperPaul wrote on 12/21/24 at 16:28:19:
When you said "with 200cc bike", I thought you were talk about the entire bike w/sidecar.

We could probably get just the sidecar here too.  "Machine parts"....

Yeah, 275lbs is definitely a substanial load!

Go for it!


Yes I was talking about the entire motorcycle combination. Both the sidecar and the bike. The bike even has reverse gear and EFI but it's the sidecar I'm interested in.


That is the best designed sidecar of all time, I think they are faultless.

 I wonder how much hassle it would be to get it certified ?








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Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Reply #18 - 12/22/24 at 02:10:45
 
I seen 3 on Craigslist,Sacramento,motorcycle parts,sidecar (1 word in search box)
Happy hunting.
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Reply #19 - 12/22/24 at 03:41:34
 
Ruttly wrote on 12/22/24 at 02:10:45:
I seen 3 on Craigslist,Sacramento,motorcycle parts,sidecar (1 word in search box)
Happy hunting.


Thanks but I have seen them all, they are all overpriced  and far away.  
     I can't understand why there are so few sidecars for sale.

I think it's impossible to find a better deal than getting one from China, + they don't complain about shipping or anything.   They will bend over backwards to help everyway they can.

I'm seriously thinking about getting two.

I will look into the import procedure for a complete rig.


Vehicle Inspection and Certification
Your car will need to pass several inspections to confirm its compliance with Canada’s safety and environmental benchmarks. You might encounter:

Safety standards inspection
Emissions testing
Transport Canada’s Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (MVSS) conformity
Registrar of Imported Vehicles (RIV) certification for non-North American manufactures
The goal is straightforward: ensuring that your vehicle is safe and clean for Canadian roads.

Import Taxes and Duties
Importing is not just about adhering to regulations; it also involves import taxes, duties, GST, and PST. The charges depend on your car’s value and origin. Consulting with customs authorities or professional customs brokers is advisable for precise information on your fiscal responsibilities.

Choosing a Transport Method
How do you want your car delivered to your new home? Sea freight offers one solution, while overland trucking provides another. Each choice comes with its own cost-benefit considerations. The best fit depends on your budget, timeline, and preferences. For a quote and expert guidance, look to logistics companies skilled in transporting cars to Canada.

Conclusion
While importing a car into Canada introduces you to a breadth of vehicle choices, it is a venture that demands diligent preparation. Stick to our guide, heed the rules, and call upon experts when in doubt, to make your importing experience seamless.

Do you require further guidance? Our team at LCS (Logistics & Customs Services) is well-equipped to answer your queries and ensure a smooth transition for your vehicle onto Canadian roads.  
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Re: It looks like I will be getting a sidecar for
Reply #20 - 12/22/24 at 05:01:24
 
blod wrote on 12/22/24 at 03:41:34:
Ruttly wrote on 12/22/24 at 02:10:45:
I seen 3 on Craigslist,Sacramento,motorcycle parts,sidecar (1 word in search box)
Happy hunting.


Thanks but I have seen them all, they are all overpriced  and far away.  
     I can't understand why there are so few sidecars for sale.

I think it's impossible to find a better deal than getting one from China, + they don't complain about shipping or anything.   They will bend over backwards to help everyway they can.

I'm seriously thinking about getting two.

I will look into the import procedure for a complete rig.


Vehicle Inspection and Certification
Your car will need to pass several inspections to confirm its compliance with Canada’s safety and environmental benchmarks. You might encounter:

Safety standards inspection
Emissions testing
Transport Canada’s Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (MVSS) conformity
Registrar of Imported Vehicles (RIV) certification for non-North American manufactures
The goal is straightforward: ensuring that your vehicle is safe and clean for Canadian roads.

Import Taxes and Duties
Importing is not just about adhering to regulations; it also involves import taxes, duties, GST, and PST. The charges depend on your car’s value and origin. Consulting with customs authorities or professional customs brokers is advisable for precise information on your fiscal responsibilities.

Choosing a Transport Method
How do you want your car delivered to your new home? Sea freight offers one solution, while overland trucking provides another. Each choice comes with its own cost-benefit considerations. The best fit depends on your budget, timeline, and preferences. For a quote and expert guidance, look to logistics companies skilled in transporting cars to Canada.

Conclusion
While importing a car into Canada introduces you to a breadth of vehicle choices, it is a venture that demands diligent preparation. Stick to our guide, heed the rules, and call upon experts when in doubt, to make your importing experience seamless.

Do you require further guidance? Our team at LCS (Logistics & Customs Services) is well-equipped to answer your queries and ensure a smooth transition for your vehicle onto Canadian roads.  


Without getting into alphabet soup of Canadian and US government entities names, it’s the Federal level emissions and safety entities that are the biggest hurdles and then the certification steps and importation process itself.  The logistics of importing, customs, and taxes is actually the easier part.

The ECU on a fuel injected vehicle faces rigorous testing and quality requirements.  The things are super expensive, but not because of the materials and technology - it’s the darn red tape.

If you’re just trying to get a couple in the country and don’t plan on selling 1000s of them like a dealership or brand, you might consider sneaking a couple in as “machine parts”.  From there, you could try to work with local authorities to get a “homemade vehicle” approved for the road.  I’m not sure how it would work with an actual motorized vehicle.  In Texas, we have a lot of homemade trailers and BBQ pit haulers running around that got a VIN assigned which then allows title and registration.

In the custom chopper world, this is why you’ll see builders buying just a frame for the motorcycle - they want the VIN and clear title for registration purposes.  Chop that frame down and only save the section with the VIN stamped in the frame.  Yes sir officer, it’s a 1947 Harley Davidson that I restored.
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Reply #21 - 12/22/24 at 06:26:07
 
Without getting into alphabet soup of Canadian and US government entities names, it’s the Federal level emissions and safety entities that are the biggest hurdles and then the certification steps and importation process itself.  The logistics of importing, customs, and taxes is actually the easier part.

The ECU on a fuel injected vehicle faces rigorous testing and quality requirements.  The things are super expensive, but not because of the materials and technology - it’s the darn red tape.

If you’re just trying to get a couple in the country and don’t plan on selling 1000s of them like a dealership or brand, you might consider sneaking a couple in as “machine parts”.  From there, you could try to work with local authorities to get a “homemade vehicle” approved for the road.  I’m not sure how it would work with an actual motorized vehicle.  In Texas, we have a lot of homemade trailers and BBQ pit haulers running around that got a VIN assigned which then allows title and registration.

In the custom chopper world, this is why you’ll see builders buying just a frame for the motorcycle - they want the VIN and clear title for registration purposes.  Chop that frame down and only save the section with the VIN stamped in the frame.  Yes sir officer, it’s a 1947 Harley Davidson that I restored.

I think you will most likely be correct.
I might get away with it by importing bikes for off road use only. I am considering selling the sidecars and giving the bikes away.    There are many vehicles offered for sale that are not certified for the road. I will look into it further Smiley



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Reply #22 - Yesterday at 09:58:59
 
I paid for the sidecar today, it's a special order in" bright black" $1150 US FOB complete with everything . Shipping is guaranteed within 30 days.
I'm looking forward to pairing it with the Savage with quick disconnect fittings, it will be a nifty little rig.
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Reply #23 - Yesterday at 15:19:07
 
Merry Christmas to you!  Pretty cheap!  Have fun!  Let’s see if the 30 day shipping happens.  When I was importing dirt bikes by sea, the best time was about 10 weeks.
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Reply #24 - Yesterday at 17:56:23
 
ThumperPaul wrote on Yesterday at 15:19:07:
Merry Christmas to you!  Pretty cheap!  Have fun!  Let’s see if the 30 day shipping happens.  When I was importing dirt bikes by sea, the best time was about 10 weeks.




The 30 days was the time it will take to make it and get it shipped.   Shipping time to Canada could well be another 10 weeks but that's ok I have all winter.

I'm in the process of buying another CJ , and this one interests me a lot.

They passed a law in China a while back making it illegal to drive any vehicle over 11 years old on the road.  The CJ market has collapsed because of that.

This is it
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Reply #25 - Yesterday at 19:04:59
 
That’s really cool. What are crazy law!  

So are you trying to import a CJ from China?

The 30 days prep to ship makes more sense. 10-14 weeks is what all my big orders were taking on the slow boat from China.  In fairness, that includes some delayed customs clearance in the US and then UPS freight transportation from Los Angeles to Houston.
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