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Battery Charge Voltage
12/06/24 at 09:31:41
 
It's that time of year when we start reaching for the battery charger/tender.  What are we looking for?

I use a traditional maintenance-free sealed lead acid (SLA) battery.  Fresh off the charger/tender, I get a reading of about 13.4-13.6V.  Let it rest for about 1 hour, and  it's around 12.8-13.0V.  That sounds good - fully charged.  My understanding is 12.6-12.8V is 100% fully charged.

AGM batteries usually read .15 - .25V higher when fully charged (so maybe 12.75 - 13.05V).

Lithium Ion - somewhat higher yet....

My question - with an automatic shut-off charger/tender, why is it loading up the battery to the 13.5V range?  Is this okay?  Or should I monitor my automatic charger/tender and unplug it when it reads about 12.8V?

I know a 12V battery is the "nominal" rating value and each cell is like around 2.2 - 2.4V.  So a 6-cell battery might be considered fully charged at 6 x 2.2 = 13.2V ....or 6 x 2.4 = 14.4V hot off the charger. ~somewhere in between before resting~. Yes/No?

The alternator working with the regulator/rectifier charges at around 14.4V, right?  Probably designed this way to be at the upper limit of what the battery can handle?

I've used this charged/tender for 2 winters without babysitting it or overcharging issues (that I know of).  I leave it on for 24 hours and then disconnect it so I'm not tripping over the extension cord on the garage floor.  I only use it when I can't ride for more than like 10 days (bad Houston cold spells when it might touch freezing at night and it stays under 50.  Glad I live in the south - lol).

I just don't want to overcharge it.  Too much of a good thing ain't a good thing.

I’ve had good luck with basic SLA batteries sold on Amazon for $40-$50 (Pirate, Chrome, Weize) for my Honda Shadow and several LS650s.
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Re: Battery Charge Voltage
Reply #1 - 12/18/24 at 08:17:15
 
Additional testing of the tender/charger tells me it knows what it’s doing.  It won’t charge the battery beyond 13.7v even after leaving it hooked up for 48 hours.
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Reply #2 - 12/19/24 at 03:39:01
 
Just took mine off after having it on the charger maintainer for few weeks and it was at 13.6 volts and it's a 3 year old battery that is holding up good last winter it was charging up to 14.2. It's a cheapy amazon chrome brand.
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Reply #3 - 12/19/24 at 05:32:57
 
Savard 05 wrote on 12/19/24 at 03:39:01:
Just took mine off after having it on the charger maintainer for few weeks and it was at 13.6 volts and it's a 3 year old battery that is holding up good last winter it was charging up to 14.2. It's a cheapy amazon chrome brand.


Good info.  I do have to give 2 thumbs up to the cheap Chrome battery from Amazon for like $45.  You’re up to 3 years and going strong.  For the price, I’d be happy with 2+ years.  That’s where I’m at with the oldest one I’m still using.

Hot off the charger you’re still getting 13.6v.  After you let it rest a few hours or overnight, where does it settle down to, like 12.8-13.1V?

I’m considering adding a voltmeter to monitor things while riding at steady speed and/or idle while the alternator is doing its job (or not).
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Reply #4 - 12/19/24 at 19:24:53
 
Off the charger for few days it's holding at 13.1 I think where most ppl go wrong is assuming a new battery is fully charged. When I got mine fresh out the box new it was 12.6 and i charged it up before putting in the bike and voltage has held up nice. No way would it of lasted if I just threw it in the bike at 12.6. I've looked at mounting a voltmeter as well but all are digital and might not last. If you do mount one let us know how it holds up. I seen someone on here I believe had a old looking analog one that would be cool to have mounted but they don't make them like that no more.
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Reply #5 - Yesterday at 01:20:48
 
I’ve had an intermittent parasitic draw for a long time , charges a fine but sometimes it’s too low to start. Think it’s my GPS speedo , haven’t found where I hid that mini fuse holder , hid it good. So I wanted a volt meter to check voltage , Amazon. Found a small digital readout and a moumentary button , readout had 2 way tape it’s on the master cylinder facing me and button got 2 way tape too it’s on right switch housing. Push the button it reads voltage anytime , if I know I’m riding the next day , I check it maybe slap it on the charger if needed. It’s been on there bike for years. Peel it all off anytime too. Trips over 50 miles I carry a spare battery for jump starting. I’ll fix it someday !
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Reply #6 - Yesterday at 05:33:28
 
I'm not The Guy who Knows, but IIRC there is some Warning that is to be considered when the charging system is being asked to recharge a low battery. I'm not sure where I heard that or if it's really a Thing, but sucking the guts outta that part of the electrical system is an expensive problem.
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Reply #7 - Yesterday at 12:48:17
 
Ruttly wrote on Yesterday at 01:20:48:
I’ve had an intermittent parasitic draw for a long time , charges a fine but sometimes it’s too low to start. Think it’s my GPS speedo

the black box above the carb (aka decomp/starter controller) for some reason is on all the time drawing about 50ma.  if you ride in the rain, it can fill up with water (bad location, connector on the top side) and fail if the circuit board corrodes.  This the reason some bikes will launch themselves across the garage and spin the tire till the battery fails.
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Reply #8 - Yesterday at 14:49:08
 
JOG wrote on Yesterday at 05:33:28:
I'm not The Guy who Knows, but IIRC there is some Warning that is to be considered when the charging system is being asked to recharge a low battery. I'm not sure where I heard that or if it's really a Thing, but sucking the guts outta that part of the electrical system is an expensive problem.


A motorcycles charging system is quite able to recharge a low battery so I suppose you mean a external charging system.  You have to consider what that system is designed to do, trickle chargers are not designed to fully recharge a battery, only a low rate meant to upkeep the battery.  It might be able to but will take months and what will months of full capacity do to something only meant to provide only a fraction thereof.
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Reply #9 - Yesterday at 15:10:42
 
motorcycles charging system is quite able to recharge a low battery

That answers my question. I thought it was kinda hard on it.
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Reply #10 - Yesterday at 22:11:39
 
My decomp is long gone , only other suspect is the GPS. When I hard wired it in I made sure not to power the standby/live all the time so it does take a minute to locate. The standby wire is optional and does not affect its operation. I need to find the fuse and pull it see if problem goes away.
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