About the same amount of time as people that think kids are dying at a higher rate from the vaccine.  How many years of thousands of kids not being dead will there have to be?

Stoppit.
You know I admitted that was incorrect. I haven't said anything about it in a long time.

 I disagree but your "long time" might be different than mine.  The last time it was discussed here you brought up the "admitted" insurance claims, and you just said you watched kids die on live TV.  To me, and I may be wrong, that is a defense or claimed evidence that kids died at an accelerated rate post-vaccination.
 

 From my perspective that's like someone saying they watched hurricanes on live TV when somebody brings up evidence like you did here.  Of course there gonna be bad weather, but is it measurably more outside of chance, and directly caused?  When people say they see the weather damage on TV, is that really much of an argument for climate alarmism?

 I'm just saying the arguments sound very familiar.


YaKnow, other people are reading this, right?

 Nah its a tiny forum.

I still say none of us have experienced anything negative in our personal lives related to climate change. Nothing.

 I disagree.  My personal life has been impacted, negatively, by changes in agriculture yields in my area due to climate change.

 A fishing group that one of my chef associates works for also has had negative impact due to climate variances so their off-shore fishing window has been reduced.  His "season" on the boat has shortened thus his pay from this group.  He considers this a negative impact.

 The CO Department of Fish and Wildlife have had to alter the hunting permits on a few species over the past 60 years to a lower amount due to animals traveling further from CDFW controlled spaces.  These are migratory animals that move based on local climate.  This, according to hunters, taxidermists, and butchers I know has been a negative impact.

 Allergens in the Western Slope have changed due to longer green stages and pollination times of certain hibernation plants.  This has increased the requirements for asthma-related and COPD treatments in the entire region.  While it is a positive change for Cardiologists and Allergy specialists, of whom multiple have opened practices due to this, it is a negative impact for those humans needing the treatments.

 I've had to purchase higher insulation IV carriers for field teams in central Africa and the Middle East because they can too easily run out of temp.  These same insulating parameters were used since the 1950's but are not longer feasible today or they will introduce fluids to the bloodstream that will be too hot.  This to me is a negative result of climate change.

 There are of course plenty of positives as well.

Eegore wrote on 12/04/24 at 17:32:37:


Sorry, but I don’t believe any of that has anything at all whatsoever to do with human caused influence on a fraction of a degree of temperature difference over 30 or 40 years. I don’t believe that.

I've had to purchase higher insulation IV carriers for field teams in central Africa and the Middle East because they can too easily run out of temp.

So if I’m understanding you correctly, very minor change in average temperature over the course of the year, forced you to increase insulation on IV carriers? Is that correct?

Because my question is, in Africa the average temperature is vastly different depending on your proximity to the equator. So in those locations closer to the equator, say 30 years ago, were they forced to use IV carriers with higher insulation?  

My point is, I’m here in St. Louis Missouri, a couple hundred miles south of me is Memphis, TN. Because Memphis is further south, the average temperature is slightly higher. Are you telling me that in St. Louis, if the average temperature shifts to the that of Memphis due to human caused climate change, that I’m going to have to make significant changes (any changes) to the products I use, my overall lifestyle, or my health is going to be negatively impacted? I don’t believe that for one second.

Sorry, but I don’t believe any of that has anything at all whatsoever to do with human caused influence on a fraction of a degree of temperature difference over 30 or 40 years. I don’t believe that.


 I didn't say it was human caused influence.  I was referencing what you said:

"I still say none of us have experienced anything negative in our personal lives related to climate change. Nothing."


 
So if I’m understanding you correctly, very minor change in average temperature over the course of the year, forced you to increase insulation on IV carriers? Is that correct?

 No, I stated the past 70 years, acceptable parameters since the 1950's.


Because my question is, in Africa the average temperature is vastly different depending on your proximity to the equator. So in those locations closer to the equator, say 30 years ago, were they forced to use IV carriers with higher insulation?  

 No.  They required less insulation than they do today.



My point is, I’m here in St. Louis Missouri, a couple hundred miles south of me is Memphis, TN. Because Memphis is further south, the average temperature is slightly higher. Are you telling me that in St. Louis, if the average temperature shifts to the that of Memphis due to human caused climate change, that I’m going to have to make significant changes (any changes) to the products I use, my overall lifestyle, or my health is going to be negatively impacted? I don’t believe that for one second.

 I think if the average human was impacted by small climate change then average humans wouldn't largely ignore it.  Those who work/live/engage in areas where small averages in temperature do create substantial change (like wildlife or agriculture for instance) will notice.  The average human buying vegetables is not impacted by local weather anywhere near as much as the farmer who grows them.

No you didn't,
you implied.

 You inferred.  I used Webstermark's exact quote, not an implication, of what maybe he might mean, as such I would expect the same, like I always have.

A-Yep !

You do you so well !

 I do me better than anyone else.   Was my quote of Webstermark's incorrect or altered in any way?

 Have I ever once said man made climate change is an issue?