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Reply #60 - 12/06/24 at 21:52:39
 

Do you really believe the info you post ?

I don't believe anything other than what I can see with my own eyes.

As for you, you must either be blind or go around with your eyes shut



 You mean the reefer trucks of dead bodies I personally installed the shelving and saw the loading of in CO, NM and TX?  The ARMY Corps of Engineers negative flow units installed on the top 2 floors of the medical center I work at (that were never used), or the CO Incident Command Center where I personally presented fraudulent nursing home numbers?

 That stuff I saw with my own eyes and not on the internet?  Yeah I do believe it.

 The most likely staged dead  bats dumped over a hill between Huangjinwo and the Quanhong Plantation in China?  Yeah I believe I saw that with my own eyes.


 Bottom line is there was a spike in elderly mortality rates in 2020, even if you didn't see them drop dead with your own eyes, humans died, their families, obituaries, medical records and for many funeral plots exist.  

 That mortality spike has not returned, why?
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Reply #61 - 12/07/24 at 04:11:04
 
Eegore wrote on 12/06/24 at 21:52:39:
 That mortality spike has not returned, why?  



What spike ?
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Reply #62 - 12/07/24 at 12:34:33
 

What spike ?

 The increase in human deaths in 2019-2020.  In this case specific to humans age 68+.

 I'm not entirely clear on Canadian numbers as my advisors there are currently in Poland and I'm not going to ask them to pull up anything while away.  Maybe there were no more deaths in Canada, on average then years prior.

 However in the US, the 2020 mortality rates rose above average by double digits, which is not normal.  An averaged metric using zero US Government data is 16.8765%  No reasons given, only counting dead human bodies.  This is an increase over the previous 10 years averaged.  

 Of those in the 16.8765% the elderly age 68+ were the majority.  There were more nursing home deaths on average during the initial stages of Covid 19, which is to be expected as that type of illness is more detrimental to the elderly than any other demographic.  This has happened throughout human history so there's no reason to expect a difference in this one disease.

 Given we investigated and reported on tons of CMS fraudulent/excessive claims we used a 3 point verification minimum although my personal preference is 7 for major funding initiatives.  For every reported fatality we verified at least 3 factors of supporting evidence, like obituaries, family social media, a processed dead body, records change, room availability, pharmaceutical stoppage for the deceased etc.  

 Bottom line is I saw, with my own eyes, my hands lifting dead bodies into trucks which was something I have never had to do before because the morgue always had enough space.   Most of those bags had old bodies in them.  So that's the spike I am speaking of.
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Reply #63 - 12/07/24 at 15:36:58
 
Eegore wrote on 12/06/24 at 21:52:39:
" ... That stuff I saw with my own eyes and not on the internet?  Yeah I do believe it. ..." 


But,
Observed Reality,
is not really Real.


(According to what one says)
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Reply #64 - 12/07/24 at 15:37:01
 
Eegore wrote on 12/07/24 at 12:34:33:
What spike ?

 The increase in human deaths in 2019-2020.  In this case specific to humans age 68+.

 I'm not entirely clear on Canadian numbers as my advisors there are currently in Poland and I'm not going to ask them to pull up anything while away.  Maybe there were no more deaths in Canada, on average then years prior.

 However in the US, the 2020 mortality rates rose above average by double digits, which is not normal.  An averaged metric using zero US Government data is 16.8765%  No reasons given, only counting dead human bodies.  This is an increase over the previous 10 years averaged.  

 Of those in the 16.8765% the elderly age 68+ were the majority.  There were more nursing home deaths on average during the initial stages of Covid 19, which is to be expected as that type of illness is more detrimental to the elderly than any other demographic.  This has happened throughout human history so there's no reason to expect a difference in this one disease.

 Given we investigated and reported on tons of CMS fraudulent/excessive claims we used a 3 point verification minimum although my personal preference is 7 for major funding initiatives.  For every reported fatality we verified at least 3 factors of supporting evidence, like obituaries, family social media, a processed dead body, records change, room availability, pharmaceutical stoppage for the deceased etc.  

 Bottom line is I saw, with my own eyes, my hands lifting dead bodies into trucks which was something I have never had to do before because the morgue always had enough space.   Most of those bags had old bodies in them.  So that's the spike I am speaking of.



How do you know what those people died from ?
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Reply #65 - 12/07/24 at 16:49:36
 

But,
Observed Reality,
is not really Real.


 Incorrect, I never said anything like that.  I said Observed Reality is not an appropriate argument as an analogue for the planet.  If one does not Observe something it is not part of their reality.  For everyone else however it is.

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Reply #66 - 12/07/24 at 17:04:37
 
How do you know what those people died from ?

 The same way that you do.  What I do know is more died in a specific timeframe than what would be considered normal.  Even if it was from nothing Covid related, if the claim is the vaccine kills at an accelerated rate, why aren't the humans with the highest volume of vaccine in their bodies dying more?

 I have seen that modern laboratory testing and medical records interfaced with social media can find consistencies in human health outcomes.  It may be a complete coincidence that humans testing positive with a specific disease, with similar symptoms, all incidentally died at an unprecedented 16% higher percentage.

 I simply do not think that a bunch of elderly humans got sick, coincidentally, all from different diseases over that limited course of time since the percentages were high, symptoms were similar, lab results identical, and humans of the same demographic that did not congregate, did not get sick at a 16% increase.  Simply put elderly that were at home with limited family/human interaction died less.

 I think that because there is no record of this ever happening from a completely random series of illnesses.  It has only historically happened from a contagion, or war/genocide.  Since there was no mass murders, and in the past 107 years the morgues have not filled past capacity, I will assess that an illness, the one confirmed from laboratory testing, contributed to the overflow of dead human bodies.  "Contributed" is a key word here that is historically not Observed on this forum by the way.


 Is it your observation that in Canada where you live there is no indication of an elevated mortality rate in 2019/2020?
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Reply #67 - 12/07/24 at 18:08:31
 
Eegore wrote on 12/07/24 at 17:04:37:
How do you know what those people died from ?

 The same way that you do.  What I do know is more died in a specific timeframe than what would be considered normal.  Even if it was from nothing Covid related, if the claim is the vaccine kills at an accelerated rate, why aren't the humans with the highest volume of vaccine in their bodies dying more?

 I have seen that modern laboratory testing and medical records interfaced with social media can find consistencies in human health outcomes.  It may be a complete coincidence that humans testing positive with a specific disease, with similar symptoms, all incidentally died at an unprecedented 16% higher percentage.

 I simply do not think that a bunch of elderly humans got sick, coincidentally, all from different diseases over that limited course of time since the percentages were high, symptoms were similar, lab results identical, and humans of the same demographic that did not congregate, did not get sick at a 16% increase.  Simply put elderly that were at home with limited family/human interaction died less.

 I think that because there is no record of this ever happening from a completely random series of illnesses.  It has only historically happened from a contagion, or war/genocide.  Since there was no mass murders, and in the past 107 years the morgues have not filled past capacity, I will assess that an illness, the one confirmed from laboratory testing, contributed to the overflow of dead human bodies.  "Contributed" is a key word here that is historically not Observed on this forum by the way.


 Is it your observation that in Canada where you live there is no indication of an elevated mortality rate in 2019/2020?

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I don't know what they died from initially, or that they died from covid-19 or if any more than was normal died. I know what the officials said at the time, but that's all.

I saw no significant increase in mortality in old people during 2019 - 2020.  What I did notice was deaths and injuries in young and very fit people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Iy8Dbxh2U&rco=1
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Reply #68 - 12/07/24 at 18:13:29
 
blod wrote on 12/07/24 at 18:08:31:
Eegore wrote on 12/07/24 at 17:04:37:
How do you know what those people died from ?

 The same way that you do.  What I do know is more died in a specific timeframe than what would be considered normal.  Even if it was from nothing Covid related, if the claim is the vaccine kills at an accelerated rate, why aren't the humans with the highest volume of vaccine in their bodies dying more?

 I have seen that modern laboratory testing and medical records interfaced with social media can find consistencies in human health outcomes.  It may be a complete coincidence that humans testing positive with a specific disease, with similar symptoms, all incidentally died at an unprecedented 16% higher percentage.

 I simply do not think that a bunch of elderly humans got sick, coincidentally, all from different diseases over that limited course of time since the percentages were high, symptoms were similar, lab results identical, and humans of the same demographic that did not congregate, did not get sick at a 16% increase.  Simply put elderly that were at home with limited family/human interaction died less.

 I think that because there is no record of this ever happening from a completely random series of illnesses.  It has only historically happened from a contagion, or war/genocide.  Since there was no mass murders, and in the past 107 years the morgues have not filled past capacity, I will assess that an illness, the one confirmed from laboratory testing, contributed to the overflow of dead human bodies.  "Contributed" is a key word here that is historically not Observed on this forum by the way.


 Is it your observation that in Canada where you live there is no indication of an elevated mortality rate in 2019/2020?

........................................

I don't know what they died from initially, or that they died from covid-19 or if any more than was normal died or if covid-19 even exists. I know what the officials said at the time, but that's all.

I saw no significant increase in mortality in old people during 2019 - 2020.  What I did notice was a sudden increase in deaths and injuries in young and very fit people.  What I have noticed more recently apart from the clots is a huge increase in " Turbo Cancers"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Iy8Dbxh2U&rco=1

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Reply #69 - 12/07/24 at 18:18:30
 
Blod,,not relevant.. E says
All good. Safe
Even if not effective.
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Reply #70 - 12/07/24 at 18:24:39
 
JOG wrote on 12/07/24 at 18:18:30:
Blod,,not relevant.. E says
All good. Safe
Even if not effective.

Grin

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Reply #71 - 12/07/24 at 18:48:51
 
Well I'll be donald ducked, it looks like covid causes cancer !  Shocked

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Reply #72 - 12/07/24 at 18:55:57
 
Eegore wrote on 12/07/24 at 16:49:36:
" Incorrect, I never said anything like that.  ...".  


Correct,
Not exactly those, 'exact', words.

Objective truth is not equal to Observed Reality.  

Observed reality is fundamentally flawed 

how can Observed Reality be a verifiable resource?

Somebody's Observed reality there has to be objectively wrong.

 So their Observed reality was the exact opposite of yours.

If there was only a way to get people to stop beLIEving the bullschitt they keep repeating.  Observed Reality, and forum post archives,  indicate that won't happen any time soon.

FBI data set A is truthful to those who Observed a Reality that aligns with that data, …  ... changed FBI data set B is truthful to those who Observed a Reality that aligns with the changed data, …

 Harris supporters rally attendance Observed Reality is not supported in objective truth or empirical evidence.  Why won't you acknowledge this?

will you refuse to look at it (thus maintaining your current Observed Reality) and say its wrong

In their Observed Reality.  Not actual reality - their Observed Reality.

So, your, ‘Observed Reality’, is actually not reality, (it is), their Observed Reality

Objective truth is not equal to Observed Reality.  

 Evidence does not support their Observed Reality.

Observed Reality for them is not objective truth

 So in your Observed Reality your posts are not read by me multiple times.

or will they remain truth in your Observed Reality?

In your Observed Reality that insurance thing is true

your Observed Reality is that the insurance information is true. You were lied to - you will not Observe that  This is why you keep repeating it.

 Observed Reality only works as an evidentiary claim if you also Observe things you don't agree with.
    (Very interesting, when regarding the  claims of Covid)

Observe only one thing, then it's everywhere.
(Golly Gee Wally)

So Observed Reality is based off rally attendance and not off the actual number of humans voting.

 Their Observed reality, (the weather in their neighborhood and the good ol' internet), supports the articles they won't read, data they won't look at, and directly conflicts with the assessments


(Just to quote a very few)

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Reply #73 - 12/07/24 at 19:18:46
 
Blod,,not relevant.. E says
All good. Safe
Even if not effective.


 I've never said anything like that.  That is a lie.

 I've never even said anyone should get the vaccine.  Nor did I "imply" it.  Stating 8 million kids did not die from vaccinations is not saying the vaccine is safe.
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Reply #74 - 12/07/24 at 19:23:55
 

Correct,
Not exactly those, 'exact', words.


 And none of my quotes you offered indicate I ever said Observed Reality "isn't really real".  It's real.  It's just a poor argument since it only applies to the human's chosen Observations.  If they never Observed it, then it's not part of their reality.

 You did nothing more than provide reference for what I actually said and not what you are falsely claiming I said.  So the next step is to use the same old "implied" argument because there is no actual statement from me saying what you claim.
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