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Reply #15 - Yesterday at 10:58:03
 
thumperclone wrote on Yesterday at 08:29:25:
" the TRUTH is that crap is history,
what matters now is the crap that's happening ..."



What ???????

You believe, Biden/Harris was CRAP.
 "...the TRUTH is that crap is history..."

You also believe that now, is crap.
"... what matters now is the crap that's happening ..."

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #16 - Yesterday at 11:52:49
 
Well,,hate all ya want. Cope and Seethe. Your life will be better in four years.
Hopefully they will kill ALL of that D.E.I. (Didn't Earn It) stupid crap. And shut down the Ridiculous Actions to Fight Global Warming,, build nuke plants, Figure out Why so many are chronically ill. Get some sketchy stuff out of our food, fluoride out,,
And screw vaccines. How many do the Amish take? Are they dying? How's THEIR autism rate?
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Reply #17 - Yesterday at 12:46:24
 
And screw vaccines. How many do the Amish take? Are they dying? How's THEIR autism rate?

 Would you accept the verifiable information presented by hundreds of medical centers and thousands of Amish?  Or will you refuse to look at it (thus maintaining your current Observed Reality) and say its wrong if it doesn't line up with what you already think is true?

 There's been ongoing generational reporting by the Amish in PA and OH since 2008.
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Reply #18 - Yesterday at 13:03:28
 
If it's a PDF,I'll pass.
If it requires an hour of study
I'll pass.
I happen to Know some 100% unjabbed kids. Not chronically ill. They don't miss school because they are sick very often, either.

I've read about their autism rate. It's not Zero,, but it's not even close to Average American citizen.
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Reply #19 - Yesterday at 14:08:49
 
If it's a PDF,I'll pass.
If it requires an hour of study
I'll pass.


 And if I read it for you, since this is my line of work, will you call me a liar?  Amish rates of diabetes, cancer, autism, vaccinations etc. are studied by multiple groups, some of which were recently abandoned due to their outcomes.  


I've read about their autism rate. It's not Zero,, but it's not even close to Average American citizen.


 Would you accept evidence that would contradict that?  Or have you already decided any new information, that you have not already read, will be wrong, if it does not align with what you already decided is true?  Is it possible that information about autism in Amish is different than what you already have Observed?



I happen to Know some 100% unjabbed kids. Not chronically ill. They don't miss school because they are sick very often, either.

 I happen to Know multiple of 100% jabbed kids.  Not chronically ill. They don't miss school because they are sick very often, either.  All of us can provide anecdotal information.  How many healthy jabbed kids are you willing to Observe?

 If logic were to prevail, since over 80% of kids in the US are jabbed, we should have seen at least a 40% increase in pediatric illness in the US right?  

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Reply #20 - Yesterday at 14:46:39
 
thumperclone wrote on Yesterday at 08:29:25:
the TRUTH is that crap is history
what matters now is the crap that's happening
sociopaths and vermin are the ones infesting our country


Yea, they’re crap but not history

You let those sociopaths and vermin in cause you thought you’d get votes from them, but Trump will send them packing.
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Reply #21 - Yesterday at 22:43:59
 
Since only around 14% are unjabbed,there is no scientific Control. I thought they eschewed The Jabs.
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Reply #22 - Today at 04:10:44
 
Since only around 14% are unjabbed,there is no scientific Control. I thought they eschewed The Jabs.

 This only applies if we ignore all autism data pre-Covid.  The insurance information you reference has zero Control, and zero verified vaccination data as well and it's a viable argument right?

 If I read Amish autism data for you, since this is my line of work, will you call me a liar?  Amish rates of diabetes, cancer, autism, vaccinations etc. are studied by multiple groups, some of which were recently abandoned due to their outcomes.  

 Simple question here: Would you accept evidence that would contradict any information you have Observed for yourself?  Or have you already decided any new information, that you have not already read, will be wrong, if it does not align with what you already decided is true?  Is it possible that information about autism in Amish is different than what you already have Observed?


 Since over 80% of kids in the US are jabbed, we should have seen at least a 40% increase in pediatric illness in the US right?  We should have seen a considerable increase in sick kids post-vaccination correct?  
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Reply #23 - Today at 05:01:54
 
You sure do seem interested in My thinking. I'm not seeing you expending much effort to Correct the thinking of others. Row AGAIN ,after you Told him fluoride was bad,raised the issue that Kennedy is an idiot and a danger to society because he is against it. And you didn't correct Him again. Why is that?
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Reply #24 - Today at 06:12:02
 
Eegore wrote on Yesterday at 14:08:49:
"...  Amish rates of diabetes, cancer, autism, vaccinations etc. are studied by multiple groups, some of which were recently abandoned due to their outcomes.  ..."


Question:
Why were those studies abandoned ?
What was the outcome of those studies ?

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Reply #25 - Today at 06:49:18
 
You sure do seem interested in My thinking. I'm not seeing you expending much effort to Correct the thinking of others. Row AGAIN ,after you Told him fluoride was bad,raised the issue that Kennedy is an idiot and a danger to society because he is against it. And you didn't correct Him again. Why is that?

 Because his assessment is correct.  Kennedy is anti-fluoride.  Serowbot did not offer information that I read for him, that indicates fluoride is safe, then argue with me about it.  He simply ignores my posts.

 You on the other hand will provide information, which is good, except you won't even read it and then you tell people that do read it they are wrong.  Stop providing information for us (Us means all known humans) to research and I will stop giving you my opinion - that is formed by using Your information - in regard to what that information says.  

 Any reason you won't answer this question:  Will you accept any information about Amish rates of autism that you have not already read?    

 Is it possible information you have not Observed exists, and is accurate, about Amish autism rates?

 Also, in regard to standards: The insurance information you reference has zero Control, and zero verified vaccination data as well - and it's a viable argument right?

 



 
 
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Reply #26 - Today at 07:02:40
 
Question:
Why were those studies abandoned ?
What was the outcome of those studies ?

 
 Question:  
 If this were reversed would you tell me to go look it up myself?


Why were those studies abandoned ?

 Two of them were from vaccination outcome groups that decided that since multiple Amish children test positive for autism that the autism testing is wrong.  Another simply said, to me via email, that they need "lower numbers" and that "there must be something in the food or something" that is causing the autism.

 One abandoned their study as the Amish healthcare records did not meet the studies minimum controls.  Many minor sicknesses will go unreported as Amish communities will self-treat more than non-Amish ones.  Another attempted to include Mennonites, and could not continue as the data was indeterminate given Mennonite flexibility in cultural categorization.



What was the outcome of those studies ?

 Amish kids have autism at a near-identical percentage as children in their geographical proximity that are not Amish.  In multiple communities they used Social Communication Questionnaire (SCQ) and the DSM-IV-TR Checklist as initial assessment then ASD phenotype.  Anyone screened positive on SCQ or DSM-IV-TR Checklist were seen for a more comprehensive clinical evaluation by multiple licensed psychologists.  Another group then finalized results with Autism Diagnostic Observational Schedule (ADOS) and Autism Diagnostic Interview (ADI) with observation and inclusion of parents.

 One thing of note here is that JOG most likely saw a flipped statistic, common on social media.  According to health records, Amish humans statements, and physical volume levels of covid vaccine reductions from stock - 14% of Amish children are UNvaccinated.  Again, multiple humans have simple changed that to say 14% ARE vaccinated and posted it online.  

 So depending on what you choose to Observe, social media or Amish parents, the vaccinated rate is either 86%, or 14%.  I choose to Observe the parents over a random Facebook post.
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Reply #27 - Today at 08:45:24
 
MnSpring wrote on Yesterday at 10:58:03:
thumperclone wrote on Yesterday at 08:29:25:
" the TRUTH is that crap is history,
what matters now is the crap that's happening ..."



What ???????

You believe, Biden/Harris was CRAP.
 "...the TRUTH is that crap is history..."

You also believe that now, is crap.
"... what matters now is the crap that's happening ..."

A solution for you,
would be move to,
   Venezuela !




exactly what the orange FELON wants
a Venezuelan style dictatorship
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Reply #28 - Today at 11:56:34
 
I said, fluoride bad..
Row said
Wrong
You corrected him. Stated tests have been done.
Fluoride bad
Then Row posted an Anti Kennedy screed, Tellin how awful it is that Kennedy wants to remove fluoride.

Days apart.
Just my imagination, I bet.
I'm sure Row reads most of your posts. I'd bet he,as I ,read till
Opinion
is visible, then his eyes glass over.. I know mine do.
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Reply #29 - Today at 14:37:41
 

Then Row posted an Anti Kennedy screed, Tellin how awful it is that Kennedy wants to remove fluoride.



 What part of that is inaccurate to you?  I agree that Kennedy wants to remove fluoride.  

Days apart.
Just my imagination, I bet.
I'm sure Row reads most of your posts. I'd bet he,as I ,read till
Opinion
is visible, then his eyes glass over.. I know mine do.


 As I said, he typically ignores my posts.  Did he post anything in response to my comment?

 If he posted mostly inaccurate information that I read for him, then argues about something he never even bothered to read, we would have the same unproductive conversations you and I have.

 Look at the other post, you won't even Observe that rally attendance size is different than Harris supporters using the internet.  Somehow to you, it appears those are the same thing.  Serowbot and I don't have those types of back and forth.
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