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Thank you for the prompt response. So you're suggesting I contact Lancer for the proper rebuild kit? If not, can you suggest where I can get a good rebuild kit for this stock carb?
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Now we’re getting somewhere!
#1) Reinstall the snorkel from the carb to air box! Have a fresh clean air filter installed. The bike absolutely will not run right without this in place even if you have the right jets in there! You might be able to skip an air intake system on a 110cc dirt bike, but not the Savage.
#2) Set your air fuel mix screw to 2 turn out. Pull the choke. Give it a try. DON’T twist the throttle while trying to start on choke. Let the choke do its thing. Don’t try to help it no matter how much it cries.
You may get lucky with the cheap Amazon carb kit and jets. You just don’t know what the heck you’re installing (unmarked chinesium alloy whatever). The jets may be terribly over/under sized. For now, we’ll give them the benefit of a doubt and hope they got it close.
Try 1 and 2 first. Assuming it starts and finds a decent high idle…. Don’t just stand there admiring it while it’s sitting on the side stand. Sit on it straight up and down (oil pressure need). Ease off the choke incrementally. See if it will find normal idle. Adjust idle speed to a decent somewhat rapid idle. See if you can blip the throttle. If all this works out, go for a short ride and get the bike up to full operating temperature. Then go thru the final air/fuel mix screw procedure in the tech section. Too much to retype here.
Good luck. Let us know.
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First, thank you for your kind patience. Connected the carb to the airbox nice and tight. Pulled the choke out, she fired right up. (two turns out on the screw). Let it idle at full choke for 3-4 minutes, pushed the choke halfway back in, started to sputter and died. Choke full out, started right back up, did not idle as smooth. Pulled VERY lightly on the throttle cable, engine died. Such is my life
There is a stock carb for sale on Facebook for $50. The guy said it ran great before he took it off. Maybe I start all over, properly get the screws out of the TEV, thoroughly clean the jets, and pray for a miracle? Or should I just take it to the Suzuki dealer and drop $350?
OK-THANKS FOR THE TOUGH LOVE, I'LL TRY AGAIN.
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Famous words “it ran great the last time I used it”. You’d likely be buying a new problem. It’s cheap for a reason. But for $50, I’d buy it and rebuild it and sell on eBay for like $180 in completely rebuilt condition.
While you’re still having issues, is it better?
It doesn’t sound like you have a major problem (but it seems like it in your shoes). For some reason it’s not getting enough fuel at idle speed or when you crack open the throttle.
Try turning up the idle. Turn the idle screw in clockwise 2 turns. Try to start without using the choke. Will it start?
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Not better with me sitting on it, upright. Still will not run without full choke and sneezing on the throttle is like hitting the kill switch.
I turned up the idle screw, cranked it with the choke in, nothing. Not even a sputter or cough. If there is even the slightest chance it's the TEV, should I get that third screw off, take it apart and clean it?
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It’s hard to say sitting here. At this point, it seems like the pilot jet isn’t picking up fuel. It’s probably not the TEV that has the most impact when closing the throttle on deceleration.
I don’t know…. I’d try a genuine Mikuni pilot jet. Like a #47.5 or #50. I’d also go back thru the carb and make sure all the passages are clean and it’s reassembled correctly. Sorry, I wish I could be more helpful.
You can get an authentic Mikuni pilot jet and other jets/rebuild kits at JetsRUs.com if you don’t want to go thru Lancer.
The first set of pilot jets (No cross drilled holes.). If you don’t want to buy a 47.5 and 50, I’d opt for the 50 and lean it down with the air/fuel mix screw as needed.
https://www.jetsrus.com/a_jets_by_carburetor_type/jets_mikuni_BS_series.htm
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I will order the jet today. Thank you so much for your help!!
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And maybe another forum member with more experience than myself with these carbs will chime in.
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To save on shipping costs, you may want to order an authentic main jet and other parts too (consider a float valve assembly).
Also, here’s a decent article and videos you can read and watch while waiting for new parts. I’m by no means a carb guru and people on this forum have watched me struggle through my own trials and tribulations. I’m just trying to get you headed in the right direction.
https://www.partzilla.com/blog/troubleshooting-engine-runs-on-choke?gad_sourc...
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