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What is the truth?
09/12/24 at 04:49:51
 
Are the Haitians actually eating the animals?
Or is it Bullschitt?

I ask because I'm curious about whether or not
It's True
Or
It's Bullschitt

Is divided along political leanings.

I'm definitely in the It's true camp. So,, since I agree with that, and since I'm Wrong about everything, according to some here, does that mean they are in the
That's Bullschitt camp?

Or can we agree on a truth?
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Reply #1 - 09/12/24 at 06:01:04
 
So,, since I agree with that, and since I'm Wrong about everything, according to some here, does that mean they are in the
That's Bullschitt camp?


 That's weird.  Maybe you haven't Observed when people agree with you, like the reactions to the Fryer research module among many other instances.


 To agree on a truth you would have to provide the exact parameters of what you will consider true, specific to this event.

 Is an article on The Gateway Pundit enough for "proof"?
 Is a police report "proof"?
 Is a statement on Facebook "proof"?

 What do you need for this to be considered "true"?  Also what are your parameters for not accepting information as "true"?  

 Is an article on CNN saying no evidence exits enough "proof"?
 Is zero police reports enough "proof"?
 Is zero social media posts claiming they lost a pet to Haitian culinary skills "proof"?


 For me, I would need to see 10 or more Facebook/Insta/Social media posts with images of claimed missing/eaten animals prior to any statements from Trump/Vance etc. specific to this election cycle.  It is very very unlikely this would happen and people wouldn't mention on their social media.  People post what flavor peanuts they ate 5min ago - they will post pets eaten by other humans.

 I would want to see at least one or more police or animal control reports.  I would accept allegations, have Haitians been accused of this in the past?  Prior to the current claims.

 I would want to see one originating and 4 repost articles, prior to Trump or Vance specific to this election cycle "reporting" on Haitian immigrants consuming pets.  

 I've been to Haiti many times, I've referenced it here multiple times.  They don't eat their own pets there unless you consider livestock to be pets.  Also however it's extremely rare to have a "pet", like a dog or cat.  The logic that they choose to consume pets when there is ample nutritious  food in the US by comparison would typically mean they want to slaughter live animals over eating packaged safe meals.  This would be extremely uncommon even in Haiti.  Tons of people get sick and die from food poisoning there, packaged clean food/water is like gold.
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Reply #2 - 09/12/24 at 07:07:10
 
Reporting now says it was a white US citizen with mental problems in Canton, not Springfield
The story is false
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Reply #3 - 09/12/24 at 07:09:23
 
Eegore wrote on 09/12/24 at 06:01:04:
"... The logic that they choose to consume pets when there is ample nutritious  food in the US by comparison would typically mean they want to slaughter live animals over eating packaged safe meals..."


Eating someones pet, Robbins, Bluejays, etc, etc, etc.
Cost CONSIDERABLY Less money, in most cases FREE, VS, 'eating packaged safe meals'.  



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Reply #4 - 09/12/24 at 07:58:02
 
Eating someones pet, Robbins, Bluejays, etc, etc, etc.
Cost CONSIDERABLY Less money, in most cases FREE, VS, 'eating packaged safe meals'.  


 Agreed.  The question is why not eat the free US packaged food they can get with free US taxpayer money put on free food cards?  Instead they will go hunt down pets, slaughter them and eat them.  

 Could happen, but I need more evidence than Vance saying so.
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Reply #5 - 09/12/24 at 08:18:37
 
That's weird.  Maybe you haven't Observed when people agree with you,

Maybe you could be less literal and notice those who simply don't ever agree.
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Eegore wrote on 09/12/24 at 07:58:02:
Eating someones pet, Robbins, Bluejays, etc, etc, etc.
Cost CONSIDERABLY Less money, in most cases FREE, VS, 'eating packaged safe meals'.  


 Agreed.  The question is why not eat the free US packaged food they can get with free US taxpayer money put on free food cards?  Instead they will go hunt down pets, slaughter them and eat them.  

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Yes, I forgot
These illegals are living the life of Riley on the taxpayers dime. living in mansions, driving Mercedes, eating steak and lobster... why would they stop to eat a cat?
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Reply #7 - 09/12/24 at 09:03:22
 
These illegals are living the life of Riley on the taxpayers dime. living in mansions, driving Mercedes, eating steak and lobster... why would they stop to eat a cat?

Some are. Some aren't. Yeah, if you look around on YouTube there is a sheriff verifying, and people who live in that area.
The sheriff is about a 100 miles from the disappearing cats.
YaKnow, maybe the Haitians would rather kill and eat the good stuff instead of eat what an American calls good.
I saw a pic of one walking with a coupla geese ..and the geese were definitely Not walking.
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Reply #8 - 09/12/24 at 09:58:11
 
Some are. Some aren't. Yeah, if you look around on YouTube there is a sheriff verifying, and people who live in that area.

 There is a Sheriff verifying Haitians are killing pets?  


 To "agree on a truth" you would have to provide the exact parameters of what you will consider true, specific to this event.  Otherwise it will be nothing more than your article/video versus someone else's, rinse repeat.  

 What I think is really going on is anti-immigration humans will believe it before pro-immigration humans do.  They will then go look only for the outcome they want to be true.
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Reply #9 - 09/12/24 at 10:29:39
 
It's hard to believe this is being taken seriously

What next? Undecided
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Reply #10 - 09/12/24 at 12:11:02
 
Okay, I got that screwed up. Yeah, a sheriff Does address the situation about the invaders. No, it's not a Hunnert miles, it's about an hour away. He also said Nothing about their Diet.
Shouldn't have tried to say anything about something I saw and then did other things.
I'm just glad I could find it to watch it again.
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Reply #11 - 09/12/24 at 12:47:51
 
It's not what you or I believe
It's that these things are given life by a Presidential candidate and his VP
They should be responsible enough to verify facts and distinguish from silly internet stories
A world leader should not be so easily duped
It's even dangerous

Haitian immigrants in Springfield are now looking over their shoulders in fear because of what they said
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Reply #12 - 09/12/24 at 13:10:00
 
Serowbot wrote on 09/12/24 at 10:29:39:
" It's hard to believe this is being taken seriously "


If you are talking about Haitians eating pets, don't have any first hand experience.

YET KNOW it is totally POSSIBLE.

FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE, with several thousand people living in N Mpls/St Paul, and several THOUSAND Hunter's around the State, and Wisc, KNOW, the 70's-early 80's the Hmong, Shot, and ATE anything they could !!!

The UL, DFI, FDS, WOKE Socialists showed their total IGNORANCE in not telling them about the different culture where they are going.

Then, Once again, (THEY NEVER LEARNED) did it with Somalians.

Very believable it could happen  with another group of immigrants, because AGAIN, the FDS, DFI's. ... ... ...


 (Oh Wait, could their be another reason ????)


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Reply #13 - 09/12/24 at 13:11:53
 

It's that these things are given life by a Presidential candidate and his VP
They should be responsible enough to verify facts and distinguish from silly internet stories
A world leader should not be so easily duped

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Reply #14 - 09/12/24 at 13:18:16
 
 I think things like this are pretty simple to assess.

 Maybe think about it from the receiving point of view.  If someone went on the news and claimed You were responsible for missing mailboxes around the area, would it be reasonable to expect all other humans hearing that to take the number of missing mailboxes into account?

 On Jan 1 2024 someone says you are stealing mailboxes.
 On Jan 2 - 6 multiple people come forward saying they heard it too.
 On Jan 7 - 10 a YouTube video of a lady saying her mailbox was stolen surfaces, and 4 people say they have seen you do it before.
 Jan 10 - 13 The video and statements are shared by millions.
 Jan 14 Websites post "Video shows local neighbors lose mailboxes at alarming rate!"

 In 2 weeks, there's "proof" You steal mailboxes by the standards of many.

 None of that proof includes a single police report, insurance claim, or social media post of someone sayin "LOL...Got my mailbox stolen..WTF..SMH.

 Not one piece of evidence exists before the claim of You stealing mailboxes exists.  Would it be reasonable for people looking for the truth to acknowledge that?

 Or would it be more reasonable for them to say they just haven't seen it yet, it was covered up, they haven't seen proof there "isn't evidence pre-Jan 1" and instead go with the social media and websites to decide you are guilty?


 So to "agree on a truth" you would have to provide the exact parameters of what you will consider true, specific to this event.
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