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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28908 L.A. California Gender:	Oil pressure check 08/25/24 at 12:14:41 What places would it be good for temporarily attaching a pressure gage to check the oil pressure? I know the 1st is the forward facing plug on the right side of the case. I'm thinking that there is an identically sized plug in the head cover for the intake rocker shaft but I can't tell if that fed with oil.
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JOG Serious Thumper Online SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1073 Longview, Texas Gender:	Re: Oil pressure check Reply #1 - 08/25/24 at 17:13:28 Get it stood up pretty vertical, get the tool ya need, fire it up and loosen the thing up and see if it oozes? Goose it and see if it oozes faster?
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18138 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Oil pressure check Reply #2 - 08/25/24 at 18:46:53 This is what I am doing for a temporary look see. I thickened the filter cover and tapped it 1/8" npt. The aluminum piece is JB welded and has two screws tapped to ensure it does not come loose.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18138 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Oil pressure check Reply #3 - 08/25/24 at 18:48:42 Other side.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18138 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Oil pressure check Reply #4 - 08/25/24 at 18:49:18 Goofy look when assembled. It turns out the 60psi gauge is horrible at the low 2-4psi at idle and read zero. Currently I have a 0-30 psi gauge with a valve I shut off then the engine is cold and the oil is thick.....I can open the valve once the oil is up to temp.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18138 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Oil pressure check Reply #5 - 08/25/24 at 18:52:23 This is how the arrangement looks with the valve in place.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28908 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Oil pressure check Reply #6 - 08/25/24 at 21:27:20 from what I understand, taking it from the front port will yield the same pressure. I want to check the pressure at various points to check proper flow.
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Re: Oil pressure check
Reply #7 - 08/25/24 at 22:19:54

That's a right nifty project. Have you got it in your head that you really, really Need to see what it is in the cam bearing areas? I don't remember how it's built up in there, so, I'm not Trying to be a clown,,

Aside from the filter, where else are you planning on tapping in?
And the reinforcing on the filter cover Might look odd,,but it looks very well thought out.

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Reply #8 - 08/26/24 at 02:35:44

I don’t think the intake rocker shaft plug will work. The shaft only has about .001” clearance. I assume you aren’t considering removal of the head cover. If you are not opposed to removing the head cover, it is easy to drill out one of the plugs (right or left) in the oil gallery, drill & tap 1/8 NPT, and install a fitting. Most informative location would be left side of the head cover since it is adjacent to the most remote bearing.

You could also drill a small passage through the far left side of the left cam bearing into the void between the rocker shaft and the plug you are considering. I do that to my head covers to provide some lubrication for the intake rocker shaft since it floats ( unlike the Exh shaft which is fixed). I still don’t think that is the ideal location for instrumentation since the oil flow is throttled by the cam bearing. However it should give you a good idea how bad things can get pressure wise. I suspect the pressure in that location should be bleak.

Dave’s filter cover mod is sweet. Quick & dirty. All you need is a spare filter cover.

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ThumperPaul Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1837 Houston, Texas Gender:	Re: Oil pressure check Reply #9 - 08/27/24 at 05:19:17 I know nothing, but wouldn’t it be too convenient if you could rig up something to where the breather hose attaches in the head cover and it could provide some meaningful info. As Sgt Schultz said, “I know nothing!”.
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Re: Oil pressure check
Reply #10 - Yesterday at 15:38:19

Well, the rocker shaft didn't have any pressure cause it doesn't have any oil flowing to it. I was confusing it with the cam shaft.

So, I found a spot I know has oil flowing to it and won't be difficult to rig up a temporary tap. The rear head cover bolt that has the oil flowing up to the head cover. I'm going to replace the m130 bolt with a longer bolt so I can add a m6 banjo tap to read the pressure.

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JOG Serious Thumper Online SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1073 Longview, Texas Gender:	Re: Oil pressure check Reply #11 - Yesterday at 20:57:48 You gonna hafta drill the bolt?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28908 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Oil pressure check Reply #12 - Yesterday at 21:56:18 JOG wrote on Yesterday at 20:57:48: You gonna hafta drill the bolt? Why? oil flows up around it and leaks if the sealing washer is bad. But maybe it will be restrictive, maybe I'll need to file a flat in the bolt to give an unrestrictive path. Time will tell.
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Reply #13 - Today at 01:29:33

That right-rear head cover bolt will work just fine. I like your plan to use a 6mm banjo. I drilled through the head cover to tap into that location. It worked great but the banjo fitting is a much simpler approach. If you use M6 x 1.0 continuously threaded rod it will provide plenty of flow up to your fitting. You can use the all-thread with an acorn nut. Just cut the all-thread to the appropriate length.

https://www.amazon.com/Beduan-Stainless-Threaded-M6-1-0-Thread/dp/B09FJKXZH8/...

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