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Reply #16 - 08/13/24 at 16:29:11

Again, of the list, listed, in the first post, which ones are a "...lie..."

All of them. The list in it's entirety is a lie as ALINSKY never had 8 steps nor authored anything like this. That list is anonymously authored and connected to Alinsky because people will just share it as fact without question. As if people just repeat what they are TOLD.

This is just a made up list posted to social media.

Again, would it be for your own good to ignore that the list was a lie and adjusted to fit the narrative?

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Reply #17 - 08/13/24 at 17:56:53

Eegore wrote on 08/13/24 at 16:29:11:

"... never had 8 steps nor authored ..."

You refuted that is was said by ALINSKY, I never challenged it.
So if you want to keep using that deflection, fine.

Eegore wrote on 08/13/24 at 16:29:11:

"... The list in it's entirety is a lie ..."

Last time,
do you want to state your opinion,
or deflect.

1 Is Healthcare now controlled by the government, where it used to be controlled by the Doctors ?

2 Has the Poverty level Increased to a very high level. ?

3. Has the the National Debt Increase to an unsustainable level.

4. Is the government, bit by bit, step by step, slippery slope by slippery slope, (UNDER THE GUISE OF SAFETY) Removing the the ability of CITIZENS to defend themselves from the Government. ?

5. Has the number of people on Welfare Increased. And have the benefits increased to the point they just don't need to work ?

6. Have teachers, been TOLD, what to NOT teach. In the 60-70's Students were the Best in the WORLD. Now they are ranked 11 - 14th

7. Is a persons faith in a Deity being systematically removed from the Government and Schools.  ?

8. Is the 'Middle Class', of people shrinking, fast, making more wealthy, and a whole bunch more of Poor ?

And if the answer is Yes, Does that indicate a massive move to hard core Socialism/Communism

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Reply #18 - 08/13/24 at 20:30:15

If your answer to a question about the Founding Fathers making a list is "They wouldn't do that."

Then there is nothing wrong with the answer: "Alinsky never wrote that."

It is not a deflection to acknowledge that the list you are using was made up, and changed over time, to align with poor policy Anyone can do that and lie about where it came from. By this logic I will make up a list that the Founding Fathers wrote and you can answer questions about my list that is also a complete fabrication.

Sound like something you would be ok with?

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Reply #19 - 08/13/24 at 20:38:21

Eegore wrote on 08/13/24 at 20:30:15:

If your answer to a question about the Founding Fathers making a list is "They wouldn't do that." Then there is nothing wrong with the answer: "Alinsky never wrote that." It is not a deflection to acknowledge that the list you are using was made up, and changed over time, to align with poor policy Anyone can do that and lie about where it came from. By this logic I will make up a list that the Founding Fathers wrote and you can answer questions about my list that is also a complete fabrication. Sound like something you would be ok with?

Yea I got it.

You refuse to give a opinion on the huge movement to Socialism/Communism.

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Reply #20 - 08/13/24 at 20:45:36

Yea I got it.

You refuse to give a opinion on the huge movement to Socialism/Communism.

It's poor policy, I've said that multiple times in this thread. It's poor policy. The made-up list brings up poor policy.

I just don't need to be presented lies to discuss it. No more than you want to discuss a list of lies made up about The Founding Fathers to get your opinion on certain politics. Does that sound like something you would want to do?

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