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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28907 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Fork Brace Reply #15 - 05/30/24 at 17:16:26 well... I see fork braces for a yamaha ls650 np41a on flea bay but they list the dim's as 58x195mm and they're similar looking I measured the fork legs as 58 but the fork centers as 190
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ThumperPaul Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1834 Houston, Texas Gender:	Re: Fork Brace Reply #16 - 05/30/24 at 18:10:51 Thanks for the dimensions, Verslagen! That’s a good starting point to find something.
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Reply #17 - 05/31/24 at 07:24:29

Verslagen, I reached out to the lowest priced seller for this brace (there are like 5 sellers of the same brace all referring to the bike as a Yamaha LS650).

This seller changed their description based on my input (see link). I also advised that the Savage and S40 are the same bike.

I am still going back and forth with the seller to confirm 58x190mm dimensions. I want to make sure they aren't trying to play me.

Did the forks ever change dimensions between 1986 Savage to 2019 S40? If they did, I'd like to correct myself with the seller.

I'm considering buying it and testing the fit. If the seller will offer a full refund including return shipping if it doesn't fit, I'll give it a shot. I'm wheeling and dealing with the seller now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/196281572806?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11051.m43.l1123&...

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Reply #18 - 05/31/24 at 07:51:32

Cool, 1 down, 5 billion to go (and that's just the 1's we know about) Grin

In 2005, they added the bug deflectors. I don't know the dim's for those but I know the CTC did not change.

They also have a model with bug deflectors for other bikes. I wonder if they can add those on.

And I like fork boots, so if they had extensions to mount those it would add to their market share.

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ThumperPaul Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1834 Houston, Texas Gender:	Re: Fork Brace Reply #19 - 05/31/24 at 09:01:46 I hear ya! My 2006 has the bug deflectors. I guess those have to be removed to install the brace. It doesn’t seem that they will slide down. Is there some kind of channel on the inside diameter that holds them in place? Also, I just measured 59mm (maybe 58.9). I think I need a new battery in my digital caliper. You sure 58mm is accurate?
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Reply #20 - 05/31/24 at 12:44:31

ThumperPaul wrote on 05/31/24 at 09:01:46:

I hear ya! My 2006 has the bug deflectors. I guess those have to be removed to install the brace. It doesn’t seem that they will slide down. Is there some kind of channel on the inside diameter that holds them in place??

Yes. There is a channel in the forks and a raised corresponding rib inside the deflector. To remove the deflector you use a soft wooden wedge and lightly hammer it upwards from the bottom of the deflector and it will eventually slip up and over.

With some electrical tape strategically wrapped and wedged under the brace before tightening you can keep the deflectors in place resting on the brace.

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ThumperPaul Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1834 Houston, Texas Gender:	Re: Fork Brace Reply #22 - 05/31/24 at 13:19:09 Thanks stewmills. Great info and appreciate the pics! Is your TKAT brace low enough below the deflectors that the deflectors go back in their original place? Nice looking bike! Fork brace looks tough! Shiny! And crash bars!
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28907 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Fork Brace Reply #23 - 05/31/24 at 16:19:29 My fork brace is installed flush with the top, but there's some clearance with the fender so you could lower it and have some room place them on the top, just not to the point that they were originally installed.
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Re: Fork Brace
Reply #24 - 06/01/24 at 06:14:54

Thanks Verslagen. It was my understanding that the fork brace needed to be installed flush at the top. I see what you mean now about having the deflectors built into the brace.

Looking at all the braces on the market, it occurs to me that all the stress is being put on the fasteners (Allen screws or whatever). Am I thinking about this correctly? They better be some pretty dang strong screws if I’m right. Even the expensive SuperBrace is designed this way.

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Reply #25 - 06/03/24 at 07:54:27

ThumperPaul wrote on 05/31/24 at 13:19:09:

Thanks stewmills. Great info and appreciate the pics! Is your TKAT brace low enough below the deflectors that the deflectors go back in their original place?

Nope. I don't think any fork brace will allow you to use the factory slots (but if someone says they did I'll stand down). What I did was get everything loosely fitted up, then ran several loops of black electrical tape around the deflector bottom ring (can't do it in the front where the deflector raises up) for a couple of loops around the ring then down between the fork and brace. Wrap it where when you're wrapping on the downward leg it is on the inside. Once I have as many loops as I want, I pull the tape down from the bottom of the brace (pulling on the extra length coming out of the bottom between the fork and the brace) barely snug (not TIGHT or it will loosen itself in the really hot summer), and snugged the brace up to pinch the tape in place. Use a razor to carefully cut off the excess. It will hold for about a year, depending on your riding and exposure, etc. but when it gets wiggly I just undo and re-do the tape and go again.

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ThumperPaul Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1834 Houston, Texas Gender:	Re: Fork Brace Reply #26 - 06/03/24 at 08:57:56 Creative. I’m not married to the bug deflectors and probably just remove them if I get a brace. They have very limited effectiveness in my opinion (almost purely cosmetic).
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Reply #27 - 06/05/24 at 06:57:40

I'd also be interested of an el cheapo brace... After taking off the 2kg front fender and installing that dirtbike fender, the front definitely went butter. I can actually see it twisting even if I just slam the brake in the garage... ThumperPaul, do not forget to tell us if the stuff from amazon works please! Cheesy

If you are interested, fork boots for Benelli 400 match the LS pretty well. I have them on with zipties. (I'm not sure if you get those Benellis in US though... I could not find anything else that would fit the LS forks here in EU)

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Re: Fork Brace
Reply #28 - 06/05/24 at 16:52:52

Hey Zoltan. I've postponed buying one off ebay for now. Although the seller did confirm everything that indicates it would fit. The seller even changed their listing title to say Suzuki Savage LS650 instead of Yamaha Savage based on our conversations. But the listing still say 195mm and Verslagen measured 190mm. Seller says it’s 190mm in a message. (hmmm, am I being played for a sale?)

I also told them to include 2005-2019 S40 Blvd, but I guess they haven't gotten that far in modifying the description/fitment guide.

Go for it if you're ready to jump! Here's a link to it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/196281572806

I'm actually in discussions with a manufacturer to produce 20 braces since there seems to be a market need. I've asked them to replicate (basically copy) the "Superbrace" and so far so good in conversations.

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Surviving Philly Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 285	Re: Fork Brace Reply #29 - 06/05/24 at 21:50:19 Thumper I'll sell you my super brace for way cheaper than a new one. I actually pulled mine and went back to fork gaitors, honestly don't plan to be using it. Let me know if interested
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