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DragBikeMike Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 4408 Honolulu	Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder Reply #15 - 11/17/23 at 11:45:38 While you are on that ride, look for an old abandoned wood building. Gather up some termites or carpenter ants. Subteranian species are best. Pop four or five of the buggers down your spark plug hole. Wait a few days and your chunk of dowel should be termite poop. Ready to fire up.
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Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder
Reply #16 - 11/17/23 at 12:29:06

The way to do this is to take off your saddle.
Take out your air filter.
Place the piston at the top of the intake stroke (intake valves open) and then place the engine on the left side.
And then blow into the suction mouth of the air filter with a leaf blower.

You can also attach a thin tube to the vacuum cleaner hose. And then fish through the sparkplug hole.

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och Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 629	Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder Reply #17 - 11/17/23 at 14:51:48 How to you get the termite poop out?
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Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder
Reply #18 - 11/17/23 at 15:46:29

DragBikeMike - Termites are moving up in the rankings! Och - I got one of those grabbers. No luck. Still can’t get the piece directly below the plug hole. Tried compressed air today. Camera arriving from Amazon tomorrow. I’m going to try to suck it out with a piece of 9mm fuel line tightly connected to the shop vac attachment. I’ll keep a couple valves at least partially open so I can get some suction. Tomorrow is another day.

Lighter fluid and a torch may move up the rankings if that doesn’t work.

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Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder
Reply #19 - 11/17/23 at 16:00:06

Zevenenergie - carb is removed. Tried compressed air thru the intake valves. No luck.

With as many times as I’ve hand rotated the engine trying different piston and valve positions, I may have smashed it up into pieces. Gotta get a camera in there and take a look around.

On a positive note, my intake valves look like new peaking through the intake port! I get to see the inside tomorrow or Sunday.

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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2778	Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder Reply #20 - 11/17/23 at 17:38:50 Hit that happy button and be done with it! That little dowl with be smashed to bits...or you'll have a bent valve.
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ohiomoto Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2778	Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder Reply #21 - 11/17/23 at 17:47:17 I like the termite and fire suggestions, and I've heard that white liquor dissolves wood. Maybe try that and then hit the happy button.
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SpamyToo Full Member Offline Posts: 233	Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder Reply #22 - 11/17/23 at 18:31:27 This is what comes to mind... Put termites in the cylinder. Hot glue? Float it. Burn it. Split it up. Probably similar though process as you already had. Edit - ooh a 2nd page of ideas. Mine are all old.
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Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder
Reply #23 - 11/18/23 at 05:13:42

OhioMoto - you seem kinda comfortable with just firing it up and cross your fingers. Seriously, what kind of odds do you give it of being successful and not damaging valve parts? This is my last resort. I honestly have doubts in my ability to correctly remove the head and reassemble. If I leave myself a trail of breadcrumbs and clues, I’ll still get something wrong. If I end up going this route, I’ll need a real mechanic familiar with our bikes. I haven’t stumbled into one in Houston. It would give me a good reason to go ahead and replace the plug cap, cam chain tensioner, and cam chain. Heck - may as well port and polish, performance cam, bigger valves. Now I’m dreaming….

I have a replica piece of dowel test soaking in Berryman’s B-60 (the strong stuff) to see if it can break it down somewhat. I’ll be in the lab latter to check it out.

Really waiting on the camera right now so I can get a look around inside.

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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10672 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder Reply #24 - 11/18/23 at 11:29:43 One way or the other you need to retrieve that little sucker from its hiding place.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18119 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder Reply #25 - 11/18/23 at 12:38:54 Next time you want to use this method to find TDC. Use a plastic drinking straw.....the bend instead of breaking.
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ThumperPaul Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1743 Houston, Texas Gender:	Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder Reply #26 - 11/18/23 at 13:16:29 Dave - that’s what I’ve used in the past with success. Dumbass me tried to improve my tool with a dowel rod. I kill me!
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och Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 629	Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder Reply #27 - 11/18/23 at 15:46:08 Put some dynamite in there and blow it up?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder Reply #28 - 11/18/23 at 16:38:38 naw shotgun, 410 will fit right in there.
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ThumperPaul Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1743 Houston, Texas Gender:	Re: Piece of dowel rod in cylinder Reply #29 - 11/18/23 at 18:30:25 Now y’all are getting serious! I like it! I’m almost there! Kaboom! I did get a look at the little sucker with my new endoscope camera. He’s just sitting there leaned up against the left side of the cylinder wall and likes to just hang out there and not get into shooting range!
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