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Re: Finn Hammer's Savage
Reply #360 - 03/21/25 at 11:25:07

I had wobbles on my Savage with the standard equipment of tires, and standard rake and trail.
Raising the rear and lowering the front each 50mm will give me a 3.9deg. Reduction in rake. Not so much, I would like to get more without cutting the frame.
Perhaps with the proper, narrower tires and 3.9 deg. reduction in rake, I will be satisfied. Probably will.
Of course I would not ride it if I thought it was mechanically unstable, but I would make sure it wasn't Wink

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Reply #361 - 04/06/25 at 10:39:28

The rear set.
A Cafe rider cannot bring it over himself to stretch his legs leasurely forward during the ride down to the coffeshop or ice cream parlour. The footpegs must be brought back to force a more cramped seating position.
What follows is how I made mine.

Thanks to Dave for getting me started, I followed his design fairly close.
In this picture you see most of the parts that go into the project:

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FinnHammer Senior Member Offline Posts: 269 Denmark Gender:	Re: Finn Hammer's Savage Reply #362 - 04/06/25 at 10:39:39 The two major parts are made from 3mm stainless steel, and a good holesaw is desirable, to cut the hole shown. There are tubes welded into these holes, and the footpegs are later mounted to these tubes with an allen screw.
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FinnHammer Senior Member Offline Posts: 269 Denmark Gender:	Re: Finn Hammer's Savage Reply #363 - 04/06/25 at 10:39:53 Do not attempt to drill, turn or saw in stainless without using this cutting paste. Rocol.
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FinnHammer Senior Member Offline Posts: 269 Denmark Gender:	Re: Finn Hammer's Savage Reply #364 - 04/06/25 at 10:40:01 Where the allen screws were once seated, you have to fit 10.5mm long tubes. This is to bring the face that the allen screws were seated at, forward, so the plates can align without any clutter.
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Reply #365 - 04/06/25 at 10:40:09

Here the left plate is test fitted for the first time. There is not a lot of clearance, and the plate has to get a good whack with a hammer to clear the swing arm.
You clamp the plate in the vice, so that the top hole and the big hole is protected from being bent, then you whack the plate to make a relief just where the swing arm is in the way.

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FinnHammer Senior Member Offline Posts: 269 Denmark Gender:	Re: Finn Hammer's Savage Reply #366 - 04/06/25 at 10:40:18 After that you test with a piece of paper to assure there is no interference between plate and swing arm.
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FinnHammer Senior Member Offline Posts: 269 Denmark Gender:	Re: Finn Hammer's Savage Reply #367 - 04/06/25 at 10:40:25 Here you see the tube that is going to be welded in place in the big hole (fuse weld on the rear side) This tube is where the footpegs are going.
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FinnHammer Senior Member Offline Posts: 269 Denmark Gender:	Re: Finn Hammer's Savage Reply #368 - 04/06/25 at 10:40:34 But first these tubes are capped with a 3mm thick washer, to accomodate the foot peg on the outside, and the allen screw from the inside.
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FinnHammer Senior Member Offline Posts: 269 Denmark Gender:	Re: Finn Hammer's Savage Reply #369 - 04/06/25 at 10:40:41 Oh, here is a view to the rear, showing nice long shocks, and proper tire.
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FinnHammer Senior Member Offline Posts: 269 Denmark Gender:	Re: Finn Hammer's Savage Reply #370 - 04/06/25 at 10:40:49 Here the left foot peg has been mounted, with a piece of TIG-rod to mimmic the brake linkage. Add a coat of black to the stainless details, and nobody will ever know they are there.
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FinnHammer Senior Member Offline Posts: 269 Denmark Gender:	Re: Finn Hammer's Savage Reply #371 - 04/06/25 at 10:40:55 Another view of the left foot peg. Notice the 12mm nut just behind the center of the peg. You will see in the next post why it is important.
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Reply #372 - 04/06/25 at 10:41:01

Crouching down for this picture, you see that there is a tube connecting the 2 plates, with a bolt clamping the tube and the plates together.

This is absolutely crucial! Don't skimp here or you will regret it. No matter how high tensile steel you use for the plates, without this tube, they will bend.
If you want to stand up on the pegs and wave your hands above your head during a victory parade, by all means, use high tensile steel for these plates, or they will bend.

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Reply #373 - 04/06/25 at 10:41:11

The rear sets I chose are made by German Messnermoto. They are high class kit. They even offer a rather nice carbon tube linkage kit which I also bought, and that tube is the stiffest carbon tube I have yet encountered, not the usual Kite building stuff.

Many of you may have noticed that this detail stands in stark contrast to the scruffy frame on my Savage.
And you are right.
When the time comes, I will rip the bike apart and have that frame painted proper.

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Reply #374 - 04/06/25 at 11:56:56

Of all the stuff I have taken off this bike, haven't put it on a scale yet, but I estimate around 30 kg, most of it rather crude, really. The front footrests indeed, and in particular the left one, with the side stand.
This side stand interfered with the new rearsets, so it had to go.
I wonder if the task of designing a new bracket to mount it on, further back, around midship, has been done by someone?
In that case, please share.

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