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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12867 Gender:	? 10/26/23 at 09:07:47 We can’t punish all Palestinians for what Hamas did but we can punish all gun owners for what mentally-ill mass shooters do?
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 5836 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: ? Reply #1 - 10/26/23 at 09:11:20 how so ?
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28399 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: ? Reply #2 - 10/26/23 at 11:09:33 Do you feel punished that you can't buy brass knuckles at Walmart? Hand grenades? ... or crack? How 'bout kiddie porn? How 'bout cancer causing food coloring? or weed killer? (Only some people will get the cancer, maybe not you) Some things are outlawed to all to protect the few from themselves and others. That's how society works
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Reply #3 - 10/26/23 at 12:45:08

And I’m fine with what we have in place now. I don’t think you should be able to go in and buy machine gun.

It’s just every time there’s a shooting like this one in Maine. It’s the same old crap repeated over and over. Ban assault rifles. You can’t ban assault rifles cause you can’t define assault rifles.

I just found it comical, well not comical at all, because I had read the statement where somebody had said too bad for legal gun owners, they’re just gonna have to suffer. Time to take out the good because of a few bad. That’s what the comment was. I just found it ironic.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9023 Minn Gender:	Re: ? Reply #4 - 10/26/23 at 12:51:54 Serowbot wrote on 10/26/23 at 11:09:33: *"... things are outlawed to all to protect the few from themselves and others. That's how society works* When Will You, *(and other GUN Banners)* actually have a clue of how PUNISHING a HONEST person/s, for the wrong doings of a Mentally Deranged Person/s. Does NOT WORK ! ! ! !
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 5836 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: ? Reply #5 - 10/26/23 at 13:45:18 being punished how?
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28399 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: ? Reply #6 - 10/26/23 at 16:25:12 Any gun with a capacity higher than 10. Done... that wasn't so hard.
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12867 Gender:	Re: ? Reply #7 - 10/26/23 at 16:53:10 Why 10? Why not 9?
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Reply #8 - 10/27/23 at 06:44:27

Until the advent of high capacity guns,.. a 10 shot clip was pretty standard. Particularly 10 shot 22's.
Ruger, Browning, etc... most higher caliber were less.
Colt 1911 was 7 or 8... revolvers, 5 or 6.
10 shot covers a lot traditional weapons that predate mass shootings
Higher capacity was reserved mostly for military or mafia.
10+1 is not really a big ask, and wouldn't stop mass shootings but it would help reduce the body count.
There is a reason mass shooters use AR's

That would actually be 10+1... if you count one in the chamber. So... 10 +1

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Reply #9 - 10/27/23 at 08:38:38

Serowbot wrote on 10/27/23 at 06:44:27:

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Higher capacity was reserved mostly for military or mafia..."

Again, you don't have the first clue.

Punishing a HONEST Citizen,
and 'expecting' it
to STOP a deranged Criminal.

Is the same as, BANNING, all RED cars,
Cause a Red Car was used in a Bank Robbery.

Point out when/where/how/who,
made a firearm SPECIALLY
for organized Crime
which one name was, 'Mafia' ?

Point out HOW,
a firearm made specifically for the 'military' would get into Civilians hands ? Could it possibility be by a CRIMINAL ????????????? Or perhaps by a 'NUT-CASE', or a TERRORIST, ??????????????????????????

Oh Wait, it is all those HONEST, Citizens !
Who use, own, buy, a Firearm.

Which of course, YOU don't have any.
(Or DO YOU ?)

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Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28399 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: ? Reply #10 - 10/27/23 at 11:16:35 Oswald killed JFK with a mail order military surplus rifle.
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Reply #11 - 10/27/23 at 12:53:09

Crime in your country has reached a point in some places that it is no longer responsible to make changes to the law.

There was a little girl in the news asking why adults would go into a building and shoot people at random. Why do people do that? She asked sincerely.

Grown people all know why. And if you know why, you would want All weapons to be eradicated from the world.Would you not?

Why don't we deal with the insanity that we experience within ourselves?

Because if no one takes up that task, we will have to arm ourselves more and more heavily.

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Reply #12 - 10/27/23 at 12:54:05

From a big picture point of view, there are so few mass shootings that I don’t see this having any impact.

As far as why would someone want a clip with more that 10 rounds? Because they do.

Again, 99.999% are never used with ill-intent so why punish them?

The other thing is it would simply be a reason to not look deeper into why this happens. Why isn’t everybody screaming about mental health issues instead of the made up term of assault rifles? What’s causing these people to do this? The ones previous to this guy all had sexual identity issues. How many of them were on the same medication? How come we haven’t seen the Nashville shooters manifesto?

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Reply #13 - 10/27/23 at 13:08:29

If you look at sexual identity issues. Then you can conclude that if you are a man you can call that your identity and the same applies to a woman. No problem.
But if you feel different, you fall outside the scope because there is a taboo on it and you cannot call it your identity.
And that is why they fight for their identity.

But having an identity is the problem the world is struggling with.
It is the number 1 cause of all the problems in the world.
All conflicts in the world are related to identity.
Democrat/Republican, Palestinian/Israeli, Black/White, American/Mexican.
There is nothing wrong with that designation, but there is something wrong with the identification with it.

We are willing to kill based on identity.

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Reply #14 - 10/27/23 at 14:18:53

zevenenergie wrote on 10/27/23 at 13:08:29:

If you look at sexual identity issues. Then you can conclude that if you are a man you can call that your identity and the same applies to a woman. No problem.
But if you feel different, you fall outside the scope because there is a taboo on it and you cannot call it your identity.
And that is why they fight for their identity.

But having an identity is the problem the world is struggling with.
It is the number 1 cause of all the problems in the world.
All conflicts in the world are related to identity.
Democrat/Republican, Palestinian/Israeli, Black/White, American/Mexican.
There is nothing wrong with that designation, but there is something wrong with the identification with it.

We are willing to kill based on identity.

I don’t buy that.

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