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‘Ranting and Raving Like a Lunatic’
10/17/23 at 16:39:39
 
Trump exposed Latitia James address.
Is there any reason for that other than to get her killed?
Trump should be locked up.

‘Ranting and Raving Like a Lunatic’: Donald Trump Exposes New York Attorney General Letitia James’ Address Amidst Fraud Trial, Tests Water for New Gag Order
https://atlantablackstar.com/2023/10/17/donald-trump-shares-new-york-attorney...
"According to MeidasTouch Network, Trump shared James’ address in an article first posted by conservative activist Laura Loomer on Substack. Trump has attacked James repeatedly on social media, and the NY attorney general has since been the victim of death threats. The twice-impeached former president also verbally attacked James before entering the courtroom on Oct. 17. "
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Reply #1 - 10/18/23 at 04:22:23
 
The houses of conservative Supreme Court justices are regularly protesting against, and they are approached in public settings. All this with the blessing of Democratic leader ship, and actually encouraged.

And she is a lunatic. She did run her campaign with a pledge to get Trump. Why would there be a gag order? It may take years to work through the court cases, but eventually all of us will be thrown out. I think everybody knows that. But the process is the punishment. Leftist will do anything legal or otherwise to keep Trump from being on the ballot. Historical legal precedents are just another thing to be tossed aside to achieve your goal.

Seriously dude, expand your horizons a little bit. This article from the Atlantic Black star, which is a publication whose entire goal is to promote liberal black politicians. Just exactly how fair you think this article really is?

This entire trial is BS. There were  no damages. None of the financial institutions complained. The judge is an absolute disgrace and a partisan politician, looking for a head to put on a pole she can carry around to her campaign for governor.
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Reply #2 - 10/18/23 at 04:25:53
 
“To put it in perspective, a 2-acre wooded lot at 1980 S. Ocean Blvd., just 5 minutes from Mar-a-Lago, is currently listed for $150 million. Mar-a-Lago, situated at 1100 S. Ocean Blvd.”
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Reply #3 - 10/18/23 at 05:17:39
 
BY: DAVID HARSANYI
OCTOBER 17, 2023
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This week, U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan overseeing United States v. Donald Trump issued a gag order prohibiting a leading presidential candidate, Donald Trump, from engaging in speech aimed at “government staff,” among others, during his trial.

Listen, I understand the disdain some conservatives feel for the former president. I share the sentiment. But if you’re cheering on a judge who’s inhibiting political speech on rickety grounds, you’re no friend of the “democracy” or the Constitution.


“Mr. Trump may still vigorously seek public support as a presidential candidate, debate policies and people related to that candidacy, criticize the current administration and assert his belief that this prosecution is politically motivated,” Chutkan explained. “But those critical [F]irst [A]mendment freedoms do not allow him to launch a pre-trial smear campaign against participating government staff, their families and foreseeable witnesses.”

Who is Chutkan to dictate the contours of a presidential candidate’s political speech? What if one of the “participating government staff” or a family member is compromised by partisanship? Moreover, preemptively suggesting that without gagging, Trump will engage in a “smear campaign” is as prejudicial to the case as any of the inflammatory things Trump has thrown around. It implies that any accusation now aimed at prosecutors is untrue.

Trump contends that he is being railroaded by special counsel Jack Smith, the longtime federal prosecutor who works on behalf of Democrats and Joe Biden. You might believe the special counsel is a chaste defender of Lady Justice, but there’s ample evidence that partisan considerations are in play. Fears of a politicized justice department are real. As we speak, the head of the Democratic Party is being mollycoddled by the state in a very similar case involving classified documents.

Whatever the case, the Justice Department now plays a big part in Trump’s campaign for the presidency — and probably his legal case, as well. If the state’s accusations can be spread throughout the media before a trial, why can’t the defendant speak openly, as well?

In the name of fairness, Chutkan contends that Trump does not enjoy unfettered First Amendment rights because he might intimidate witnesses. It’s already illegal to intimidate witnesses. Charge him if he does it. Laws already exist to cover all the other premises Smith has used to rationalize the gag order.

The notion that a jury pool is going to be impartial in a trial involving a divisive former president, who is not only a leading contender for the presidency but one of the most famous people on Earth, is absurd. And the notion a DC jury pool will be impartial when it comes to Trump is fantastical. There is little that can be done about it. But further gagging the defendant only feeds, at the very minimum, the perception that this is all politically motivated.

Establishment media informs us that the gag order is just “narrow” and meant to “protect the integrity of the trial and the jury pool.” In her Solomonic wisdom, Chutkan cut the state’s request in half. A “narrow” gag order limiting free speech is still a gag order limiting free speech. The fact that Smith was seeking even broader limitations only makes Trump’s claims more plausible.

Smith has also argued that Trump should not be afforded “special treatment” because he’s a candidate. He’s right. No one’s right to defend themselves or to engage in speech should be inhibited, not even during trials (though any good lawyer will tell clients, for their own good, to shut up.) Still, gag orders are almost always an unconstitutional prior restraint. For years, the ACLU and similar groups argued the same.

I’m sure many people simply believe Trump deserves it. Think, though, about the precedent: administrations can now launch prosecutions against political rivals — calibrated to take place in favorable cities and timed to coincide with elections — and then demand gag orders be implemented on those running for office. If you think they won’t do it to others, you haven’t been paying attention.
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Reply #4 - 10/18/23 at 06:48:57
 
He's under indictment and a judge ordered him not to do exactly what he did.
And we all know he'll do it again... and again... and again
Until some MAGA nut kills someone.

He needs consequences.
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Reply #5 - 10/18/23 at 07:01:52
 
tRump committed fraud stating there were no damages is the same argument that doesn't work when fighting a speeding ticket
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Reply #6 - 10/18/23 at 07:24:39
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/18/23 at 06:48:57:
He's under indictment and a judge ordered him not to do exactly what he did.
And we all know he'll do it again... and again... and again
Until some MAGA nut kills someone.

He needs consequences.


Really? They caught a guy on the way to kill Brett Kavanaugh and Biden still refers to the Supreme Court as being hijacked by conservatives. You gonna tell him to shut up? Steve Scalise, still suffers from gunshot wounds from a Bernie Sanders follower and Bernie has not changed his tune at all, I don’t recall you telling him to be quiet.

When the pendulum swings back the other way, and it will, you will be crying louder than any one if the same thing happens to Obama for example in the future if he’s on trial. I know you love the idea about having the Department of Justice on your side but you’re playing with fire here. You better wake up. You don’t really wanna start this fire. You only think you do.
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Reply #7 - 10/18/23 at 07:25:09
 
thumperclone wrote on 10/18/23 at 07:01:52:
tRump committed fraud stating there were no damages is the same argument that doesn't work when fighting a speeding ticket


Tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without actually telling me.
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Reply #8 - 10/18/23 at 07:27:55
 
I hope Trump ignores the Banana Republic court order and talks all he wants. Force this issue to the front of everybody’s minds. I know it will be difficult because most people are too stupid and ignorant to realize how dangerous this is but hopefully enough people will, and they’ll demand this will be stopped.

Again, regardless of the outcome in these banana republic courts, all of these things are gonna be thrown out on appeal, but it may be five or 10 years from now. And again, that’s the point.

The process is the punishment.
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Reply #9 - 10/18/23 at 09:20:15
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/18/23 at 07:25:09:
thumperclone wrote on 10/18/23 at 07:01:52:
tRump committed fraud stating there were no damages is the same argument that doesn't work when fighting a speeding ticket


Tell me you have no idea what you’re talking about without actually telling me.


it is your prerogative to ignore the facts, enjoy the kool aid
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