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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8054	Re: So,is they is or is they ain't? Reply #15 - 09/04/23 at 15:16:57 Meanwhile, Useful Idiots, just keep touting things, They Have Been TOLD TO SAY !!! Like all those death certificates from car wrecks that are listed as dying FROM Covid because the CDC said to do it that way.
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9055 Minn Gender:	Re: So,is they is or is they ain't? Reply #16 - 09/04/23 at 15:20:45 Eegore wrote on 09/04/23 at 15:16:57: *Like all those death certificates from car wrecks that are listed as dying FROM Covid because the CDC said to do it that way.* And again, Fantastic Deflection !
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8054	Re: So,is they is or is they ain't? Reply #17 - 09/04/23 at 16:42:13 And again, Fantastic Deflection ! Coming from the guy bringing up JFK/Boinking MM and Teddy Driving Drunk, and Jeffrey Epstein. It's not different. Some people just say what they are told. Like how Jan 6th defendants are having their 6th Amendment violated. It's stories, not facts. Stories not their own court filings.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: So,is they is or is they ain't? Reply #18 - 09/04/23 at 18:02:15 I'm not familiar with people not accepting bail. Why are they still in jail?
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Re: So,is they is or is they ain't?
Reply #19 - 09/04/23 at 20:42:23

I'm not familiar with people not accepting bail.
Why are they still in jail?

Most aren't. Or maybe read it this way: They Ain't.

Some made bail, and were then sentenced. PG's source, and many others, simply categorize them as "incarcerated" and leave out that they were free, went to trial and are now serving a sentence. Telling us they are held against their rights is a lie. Many of them are actually free by now.

A small percentage of defendants were held without bail, like the guy on video shoving two police officers, kicking one on the ground and stealing riot shields just to go brag about it, that guy was held. This does not violate his 6th Amendment rights as his defense filed a waiver to have more time to prepare his case.

Another is held as a suspect on a murder trial. (something he left out on his fundraising page)

People walking around, were out on bail, and many are free now. The claim hundreds are held without trial is a lie. These people are roaming around free. The claim that people walking in peacefully are still being held is a lie, not even one misdemeanor charge, not one, was held without bail.

Many of the Defendants chose to change Counsel, and that involves waivers of trial time calculation as well. Again, not a violation especially since the Defendant made the choice to extend.

Individual breakdowns of every case:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

Update from the Dept. of Justice as of Aug 6 2023:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/31-months-jan-6-attack-capitol

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Reply #20 - 09/05/23 at 07:28:42

From the date a person was charged, to the date of Arraignment. Should be (+/-) 2 Business days.
Just in the first couple of pages, that time was MUCH longer.

Looked at it that often quoted, “Oh Look What We Did”, report.

A tremendous amount if information is missing.

Not Provided was the Time elapsed between the two.
(Proof, not a guess)

… where that person was, between those times.
(Proof, not a guess)

… how many ’Plea Deals’ were the result of:
“… Prosecutors follow through on threat to seek
‘terrorism enhancement’
for those who reject plea deals…”
(Proof, not a guess)

For those that are unfamiliar with a, ‘plea Deal’ below are tiny parts of a Federal Government one.

“… Your client understands that by pleading guilty in this case your client agrees to waive certain rights afforded by the Constitution of the United States and/or by statute or rule.
Your client further understands that the sentence to be imposed is a matter solely within the discretion of the Court. Your client acknowledges that the Court is not obligated to follow any recommendation of the Government at the time of sentencing.
Your client understands that the Government’s recommendation is not binding on the Court.
Your client acknowledges that your client’s entry of a guilty plea to the charged offense(s) authorizes the Court to impose any sentence, up to and including the statutory maximum sentence.
The Government cannot, and does not, make any promise or representation as to what sentence your client will receive. Moreover, it is understood that your client will have no right to withdraw your client’s plea of guilty should the Court impose a sentence that does not follow the
Government’s sentencing recommendation.
The Government and your client will be bound by this Agreement, regardless of the sentence imposed by the Court. Any effort by your client to
withdraw the guilty plea because of the length of the sentence shall constitute a breach of this Agreement.
Your client also agrees to waive all constitutional and statutory rights to a speedy sentence and agrees that the plea of guilty pursuant to this Agreement will be entered at a time decided upon by the parties with the concurrence of the Court.
Your client expressly authorizes the United States Attorney’s Office to obtain a credit report on your client.

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Reply #21 - 09/05/23 at 14:09:52

Not Provided was the Time elapsed between the two.
(Proof, not a guess)

It is provided in the referenced documentation. None of those omitted time calculated towards speedy trial, so no violation of the 6th Amendment there.

… where that person was, between those times.
(Proof, not a guess)

There is no obligation for the DoJ to monitor the locations of humans that are not in custody. I imagine you would need to contact each person individually to find out where they were. Humans in custody had their time calculated towards speedy trial, so no violation of their 6th Amendment rights there.

… how many ’Plea Deals’ were the result of:
“… Prosecutors follow through on threat to seek
‘terrorism enhancement’
for those who reject plea deals…”
(Proof, not a guess)

I imagine you would have to contact each of their legal representatives to see why they made the decision. Verify their statements match the trial documents and cross reference them with the charges.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28416 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: So,is they is or is they ain't? Reply #22 - 09/05/23 at 14:53:39 33 years for Enrique Tarrio (correction, 22 years) That's a pricey 15 minutes Trump led them,... what should he get?
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12912 Gender:	Re: So,is they is or is they ain't? Reply #23 - 09/05/23 at 15:27:35 Serowbot wrote on 09/05/23 at 14:53:39: 33 years for Enrique Tarrio That's a pricey 15 minutes Trump led them,... what should he get? The Oval Office again? I say it’s 51% to 49% Trump will be your President again.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28416 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: So,is they is or is they ain't? Reply #24 - 09/05/23 at 15:35:15 You keep on tellin' yerself that... More than 60% of voters say no way they vote Trump
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: So,is they is or is they ain't? Reply #25 - 09/05/23 at 18:10:57 Yeah, 81 million people, who can't be found, right,
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Re: So,is they is or is they ain't?
Reply #26 - 09/05/23 at 23:46:19

Serowbot wrote on 09/05/23 at 15:35:15:

You keep on tellin' yerself that... Grin

More than 60% of voters say no way they vote Trump

Anyway still pretty good for a candidate with multiple lawsuits against him.
It strengthens my confidence that Trump wil be elected.

People want a better life:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/beR2yStKhJE

Thay want to wake up like this:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MIih6e31KQI

How is your precident conne do that? He is demented.

And when he says god save the queen, what does he actually mean by that?

So you want a puppet as the president, Hmm Intresting....

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Do what you know is right. (you can always use fear as a counselor later)

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12912 Gender:	Re: So,is they is or is they ain't? Reply #27 - 09/06/23 at 02:57:53 I didn’t say it was a sure thing and more than half of me doesn’t want Trump, but he’s a better option than any Democrat and all but DeSantis as I see it now.
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Reply #28 - 09/06/23 at 03:04:48

And Biden isn’t going to run. Kamala isn’t going to create enough enthusiasm to pull big numbers and Democrats won’t be able to cheat this year like last time.

Democrats best chance is Newsom although running for the top job when you’ve destroyed your state is going to be tricky.

Their best bet is to get behind JFK Jr. They’d have to get the media to switch 180 degrees from calling him a vaccine denier to the second coming of his uncle, but they’d have no problem doing that.

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Reply #29 - 09/06/23 at 07:35:24

"... Their best bet is to get behind JFK Jr. They’d have to get the media to switch 180 degrees from calling him a vaccine denier to the second coming of his uncle, but they’d have no problem doing that. ..."

I believe they will never get behind Jr.
He will never, 'cow down', to the puppet masters.

"... Democrats best chance is Newsom although running for the top job when you’ve destroyed your state is going to be tricky..."

That is who they will put up, and with their Fraud, Deception, Illegal, Dead, manipulation of the vote.
It could be another tough 4 years, further dividing this Nation.

Unless Patriots and Freedom Defenders, turn off the Opra reruns, shut off the TV, and put down the Pizza.

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