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Are you going to do it again?
08/27/23 at 08:54:06
 
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Reply #1 - 08/27/23 at 13:26:09
 
 There is a substantial difference left out of the provided information.  A difference between airborne particles goin IN and droplets going OUT.

 Covid = NOT airborne.  Mask is for reducing, and only reducing, droplets going OUT of the human.

 Smoke = AIRBORNE particles.  Masks will not stop AIRBORNE particles going IN to a human.

 This is a case of intentional and willful ignorance.  Do you really think surgeons wear masks to keep infections from going out of the patients and INTO their lungs?  Or do they wear masks to keep droplets from going OUT of their body into the patient?


 This doesn't mean mask mandates were appropriate, or that humans wearing them on boats in a lake by themselves aren't idiots - they are.  

 This only means smoke going IN is not water going OUT.  It's not even close.  This whole image relies on contempt blinding out reason and not facts revealing truth.
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Reply #2 - 08/27/23 at 14:26:18
 
You can wear the face diaper. I'm NOT
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Reply #3 - 08/27/23 at 17:19:16
 

 No problem.  I won't wear it thinking that airborne particles that aren't carrying a droplet disease will be stopped from coming IN.

 I will think that a covering over my mouth will reduce, and only reduce, the amount of droplets coming OUT of my mouth.  

 I will use truth to decide.

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Reply #4 - 08/27/23 at 18:49:52
 
How big,
 can out going partials be ?
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Reply #5 - 08/27/23 at 19:40:08
 
How big,
can out going partials be ?



  I assume you mean particles.  

 There is a combination of differences but droplet contagion parameters are typically >5 microns.  A standard human expels much larger droplets than that, but sneezing can cause lower volume or aerosol level dispersal.  

 The primary difference is droplet protocol is based off of gravitational force acting in close proximity, even with aerosol dispersal.  Airborne particles are <5 microns and can travel much further based off of initial velocity, airflow and humidity.

 Covid particles do not travel miles and miles across the planet like the smoke from the Canadian fires for instance, even from a very forceful sneeze.  Comparing them to smoke is a terrible comparison, and the protective assessment is exactly the opposite direction of travel.

 Masks in fires are to keep things OUT, masks during Covid are to keep things IN.  This is why you need two very different mask types.  The only possible way the image in JoGs post makes sense is to ignore completely the direction of travel and particle type, which apparently plenty of people are willing to do so they can complain and make it seem like they have evidence for it.

 None of this means I am "defending" mask mandates and every human "should" take the "good" vaccine, it only means I can tell the difference between IN and OUT and can use that information to see when I am being lied to.
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Reply #6 - 08/28/23 at 05:40:59
 
The Droplets are many times larger than the virus itself, so they will not pass through the mask so quickly.

However, when you sneeze, droplets fly in all directions. The Micro droplets  dry up very quickly and then leave only very small particles in the air. Those tiny particles easily pass through any mask.

I know all about it because I've been a mask myself for years.
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Reply #7 - 08/28/23 at 14:53:51
 
Eegore wrote on 08/27/23 at 19:40:08:
"I assume you mean particles. ..."

Yep I did.
Just A case of this forum's, AI, 'adjusting', things.

"... droplet contagion parameters are typically >5 microns...
... A standard human expels much larger droplets...
... but sneezing can cause lower volume..."


So according to the photo posted,
a 5 micron, 'thing' can not get out,
and a 10 micron, 'thing' can get in ?

What happens when a person, that has Covid, sneezes.
Does that droplet of snot, which contains c-19, dry, then by normal breath get through the mask ?

No, this is not the N95, but the cheep passed out ones, the Casinos Convenience stores, etc, etc, etc, gave away for free.
 (That everybody was to wear)

"...Covid particles do not travel miles and miles across the planet like the smoke from the Canadian fires ..."

How does that correlate with, the size of something going through a mask ?



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Reply #8 - 08/28/23 at 17:14:56
 
Yep I did.
Just A case of this forum's, AI, 'adjusting', things.



 I wouldn't consider autocorrect to be AI.  


So according to the photo posted,
a 5 micron, 'thing' can not get out,
and a 10 micron, 'thing' can get in ?


 No the photo posted does not indicate that.


"What happens when a person, that has Covid, sneezes.
Does that droplet of snot, which contains c-19, dry, then by normal breath get through the mask ?"


 Yes it is possible that an unmasked human sneezing particles at aerosol levels in the air could release particles small enough to go INTO the mask of a human wearing one.  This is why masks are recommended to reduce, and only the word reduce with the exemption of all other known words, the amount of fluids coming OUT of a human mouth into the environment around it.  Covid masks are to reduce and only reduce the amount of fluids coming OUT of the sneezing human.  NOT to stop particles going IN.


"...Covid particles do not travel miles and miles across the planet like the smoke from the Canadian fires ..."

How does that correlate with, the size of something going through a mask ?


 Smoke.  The photo provided is about smoke.  How smoke travels through a mask INTO a human, referencing its size, but willfully omitting the fact it is airborne and not a fluid particle.  

 Covid masks are to reduce and only reduce fluids going OUT.

 People are being intentionally ignorant to this.  It's not hard to Observe fluid OUT is different than air IN.
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Reply #9 - 08/28/23 at 17:20:34
 

However, when you sneeze, droplets fly in all directions. The Micro droplets  dry up very quickly and then leave only very small particles in the air. Those tiny particles easily pass through any mask.


 You mean sneeze without a mask.  If you sneeze with a mask you reduce, and only the word reduce with the exemption of all other known words, the amount of fluid going into the air from that sneeze.

 Covid masks are to reduce fluids going OUT, from things like a sneeze, not airborne particles going IN.  Like the smoke, a totally different thing, in the referenced photo, thats an airborne particle going IN.  Not fluid going OUT.
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