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justin_o_guy2
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Reply #15 - 08/12/23 at 09:25:27
 
Says the Muppet with fingers in ears, LALALALA,,   you ignore everything,, I genuinely hope you wind up with your house full of illegals..
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Reply #16 - 08/12/23 at 09:37:34
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/12/23 at 09:25:27:
"... I genuinely hope you wind up with your house full of illegals..


Will NEVER Happen.
  NEVER

That is the job for,
SOMEONE ELSE !!!!!!!!


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Reply #17 - 08/12/23 at 10:16:26
 
Noooo,... that's not racist
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Reply #18 - 08/12/23 at 13:16:32
 
No,it isn't. You love the people coming across the border. You think it's just dandy for society to get crushed by them. I want YOU to enjoy the full of it, Personally.

You SAY it is racist, but you can't explain why.


Hey! Remember when all you Follow Every Word from the Government guys said
Ivermectin is Bad?

Stepping TOWARDS the full admission.. Everyone KNOWS they don't Want to admit anything.. Now that The Jabs are On the Schedule, Approved, it's not Necessary to deny alternative treatment for covid. If there IS any alternative treatment,, No Experimental Authorization can be issued.  
So, exactly Zero Reason to lie,,

Doctors are free to prescribe ivermectin to treat COVID-19, a lawyer representing the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said this week. “FDA explicitly recognizes that doctors do have the authority to prescribe ivermectin to treat COVID,” Ashley Cheung Honold, a Department of Justice lawyer representing the FDA, said during oral arguments on Aug. 8 in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit.

The government is defending the FDA’s repeated exhortations to people to not take ivermectin for COVID-19, including a post that said “Stop it.”

In other statements, the FDA said that ivermectin “isn’t authorized or approved to treat COVID-19” and “Q: Should I take ivermectin to prevent or treat COVID-19? A: No.”

Command or Not: “FDA made these statements in response to multiple reports of consumers being hospitalized, after self medicating with ivermectin intended for horses, which is available for purchase over the counter without the need for prescription,” Ms. Honold said. A version of the drug for animals is available, but ivermectin is approved by the FDA for human use against diseases caused by parasites.

Ms. Honold said that the FDA didn’t purport to require anyone to do anything or to prohibit anyone from doing anything. “What about when it said, ‘No, stop it’?” Circuit Judge Jennifer Walker Elrod, on the panel that is hearing the appeal, asked. “Why isn’t that a command? If you were in English class, they would say that was a command.” Ms. Honold described the statements as “merely quips.”

“Can you answer the question, please? Is that a command, ‘Stop it’?” Judge Elrod asked. “In some contexts, those words could be construed as a command,” Ms. Honold said. “But in this context, where FDA was simply using these words in the context of a quippy tweet meant to share its informational article, those statements do not rise to the level of a command.”

The statements “don’t prohibit doctors from prescribing ivermectin to treat COVID or for any other purpose” Ms. Honold said. She noted that the FDA, along with the statements, said that people should consult their health care providers about COVID-19 treatments and that they could take medicine if it was prescribed by the provider. “FDA is clearly acknowledging that doctors have the authority to prescribe human ivermectin to treat COVID. So they are not interfering with the authority of doctors to prescribe drugs or to practice medicine,” she said.

Judge Elrod is on the panel with Circuit Judges Edith Brown Clement and Don Willett. All three were appointed under President Donald Trump."


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Reply #19 - 08/12/23 at 13:59:35
 
You think the government saying "Take Ivermectin if you want to" is saying it works to prevent Covid?
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Reply #20 - 08/12/23 at 14:31:34
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/12/23 at 10:16:26:
Noooo,... that's not racist

Clearly then, you are RACIST.

You have NOT, filled your house with Illegal Immigrants. Gave them food  and bed. Paid for their healthcare and education. Found them a job where they don't have to pay taxes.


 

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Reply #21 - 08/12/23 at 15:20:03
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/12/23 at 13:59:35:
You think the government saying "Take Ivermectin if you want to" is saying it works to prevent Covid?


They REVERSED positions.

You explain why.

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Reply #22 - 08/12/23 at 21:23:34
 

They REVERSED positions.

You explain why.


 They didn't REVERSE positions.  You either did not read the information you provided or you are intentionally taking it out of context.

 Nothing.  Nothing in the information you offered proposes the FDA, or the CDC has changed positions in any way about Ivermectin.  But if you Observe that, you cant keep claiming, falsely, that they did.
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Reply #23 - 08/13/23 at 06:34:13
 
No,your gaslight bullshit doesn't work. Every voice screamed
That is Not a treatment. Doctors got in trouble for trying to use it.
Because

By LAW
ANY Alternative Treatment meant

No Emergency Authorization could be given for the Jab.

Full Stop.
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Reply #24 - 08/13/23 at 07:35:37
 
Eegore wrote on 08/12/23 at 21:23:34:
"... They didn't REVERSE positions. ..."  

   From the FDA Web Site:

"Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19"

"The FDA has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19 in humans or animals."

"Currently available data do not show ivermectin is effective against COVID-19"

"The FDA has not authorized or approved ivermectin for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19 in people or animals." (Yes it was in two places)

"The most effective ways to limit the spread of COVID-19 include getting a COVID-19 vaccine when it is available to you and following current CDC guidance."

"it can be highly dangerous to use a medicine for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 that has not been approved by or has not received emergency use authorization from the FDA."


https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermec...


From:
https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/ivermectin-treat-covid-19-coronavirus-3...
Just a little web sight.
However I believe the FDA said, 'no', enough times.

"Ivermectin is not FDA approved to treat COVID-19."


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Reply #25 - 08/13/23 at 14:05:06
 
No,your gaslight bullshit doesn't work. Every voice screamed
That is Not a treatment. Doctors got in trouble for trying to use it.
Because

By LAW
ANY Alternative Treatment meant

No Emergency Authorization could be given for the Jab.

Full Stop.


 You are over-reacting as usual because I am not lock-step in absolute agreement to every word you say.  Look up  "Off Label Use" and tell me what you Observe.  Or refuse so you can keep making false statements.  None of your information says they REVERSED their stance. The FDA can still be wrong, and not REVERSE their stance.

 Doctors did not get fired because of the Alternative Treatment nonsense.  They were fired because their employers equated FDA authorization with medical treatment standards of care.  They fired the doctors for off label use.  That is an EMPLOYERS DECISION.  The FDA can be complicit for being misleading but they have not REVERSED their stance on ivermectin.  You were Lied to about that.

 The FDA can still be wrong, and you can be wrong about the differences between FDA authorization Off Label Use and MSC.

 Once a drug is approved the FDA does NOT have authority over how it is prescribed once it is in the market.  Your lying website is removing that part, completely, from the information they gave you.  I wonder why that is.

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Reply #26 - 08/13/23 at 14:11:14
 
 Literally all of MnSpring's examples are showing that the have NOT REVERSED their stance on Ivermectin:


"Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19"

 You, not doctors.  Doctors can prescribe it legally off-label.



"The FDA has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19 in humans or animals."

 This is true, doctors are legally and consistently, without being fired, even today, with Ivermectin, prescribing drugs that are not FDA authorized for a specific disease.  The reference Jog provides does not REVERSE this, he was lied to about that.



"Currently available data do not show ivermectin is effective against COVID-19"

 This is true.  They have not REVERSED their opinion on this, you are mixing prescription use with authorization.



"The FDA has not authorized or approved ivermectin for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19 in people or animals." (Yes it was in two places)


 And both times you confuse prescription use with authorization, they did not REVERSE their opinion on Ivermectin.  



"The most effective ways to limit the spread of COVID-19 include getting a COVID-19 vaccine when it is available to you and following current CDC guidance."

 They did not REVERSE their opinion on this.  JoG was lied to about that.  They lied.



"it can be highly dangerous to use a medicine for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 that has not been approved by or has not received emergency use authorization from the FDA."

 They have not REVERSED their opinion on this.  You are mixing prescription use with at-home non-prescribed use of non-approved medications.  Not what JoG is talking about.
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