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08/02/23 at 11:33:38
 
Canadian health officials asked an Ontario woman to donate organs of her husband who died after being denied an organ transplant because he did not receive the COVID-19 shots.


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Reply #1 - 08/02/23 at 12:04:15
 

 The Canadian Supreme Court refused to rule on an appeal from a woman who would only survive with an organ transplant, yet refused to be vaccinated.  They did so because the decision to require a vaccination is not the Governments but the private company establishing preconditions for organ transplants.

 So in this case Trillium Gift of Life network, exercising it's rights as a private company chose to require Covid vaccinations.  This is allowed under the Canadian Charter.

 Would I donate organs if I was denied a transplant in the US because I am not vaccinated?

 I would.  Not being vaccinated was my choice and if it cost me my life due to organ transplant denial, I see no reason why my organs should not help another once I am dead.
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Reply #2 - 08/02/23 at 13:08:05
 
Why didn't he just go down to the Socialist Free healthcare place?
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Reply #3 - 08/02/23 at 13:13:29
 
I imagine a lot of anti vaxxer's are anti organ donation too.

Once you get yer' anti goin'...  Huh
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Reply #4 - 08/02/23 at 14:12:54
 
Another completely mind bogglingly illogical idea. You think they should donate to a system that left him to die?
I'm not against letting someone have bits and pieces of me when I'm gone.. I'm a PureBlood.
You do that so you can pretend you've addressed the issue, while completely ignoring the point.
And smugly, condescendingly affecting a position of superiority.
Phhht,,
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Reply #5 - 08/02/23 at 14:32:16
 
Why didn't he just go down to the Socialist Free healthcare place?

 What place is that?


"Another completely mind bogglingly illogical idea. You think they should donate to a system that left him to die?"

 No.  I think I would, I do not think anyone "should" do anything regarding organ donation, or vaccines for that matter.  You said I think they "should" donate, I did not say they should do anything, nor did I imply it.  The only person here who thinks they "should" do something is you.

 My organs go to humans, not a system.  If I were told tomorrow I can not get an organ because I was not vaccinated, I would still donate my organs.  I would rather someone live than prove a post-mortem point to an organization that doesn't care and would never get it.
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Reply #6 - 08/03/23 at 02:35:55
 
What place is that?
Canada has a socialist healthcare system, and getting care is not something that happens like it does here.
I had my wife in Scott and White in Temple Texas in around the late eighties,. They had an RV parking lot. I strolled around and had a look at where all those RVs were from. A shocking number were from Canada. People who had enough Money to rent an RV and go to Texas for medical care,,, Now WHY would they do that? They didn't have insurance.

No, your position on this is not explaining what happened.

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https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees...
Health care in Canada: Access our universal …
WebCanada has a universal health care system funded through taxes. This means that any Canadian citizen or permanent resident can apply for public health insurance. Each province...

So, the guy needed LIFE SAVING surgery. But wasn't jabbed. So he died. And then someone wanted his dead body in surgery to remove the parts.
Weak,,

Why would Anyone allow them to have anything after that?


It's a Socialist system for the people who can't afford insurance.. It's akin to Americans sending kids to private schools. Ohhh, you're Gonna Pay taxes to support the Public system,, and IF you have enough left over then you Can pay for something better.

There is No Reason for the government to ban gas stoves. All we need to do is get rid of the gaslighting clowns.
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Reply #7 - 08/03/23 at 05:26:21
 

 I am aware of how Canada's healthcare system works, I was thinking you meant he could go to an actual location.



So, the guy needed LIFE SAVING surgery. But wasn't jabbed. So he died. And then someone wanted his dead body in surgery to remove the parts.
Weak,,

Why would Anyone allow them to have anything after that?



 To save other humans.  If it were me, I would let them have my dead body's organs.  I chose the vaccine as my hill to die on, the potential recipient of my life-saving organs has nothing to do with that.  This is about me, not what anyone else "should" do, I don't care what other humans do with their organs.

 I could see the value in denying my organs to the specific humans that made the vaccine requirement policy, but not to others who had zero input on the issue.


 If your grandkid needed a kidney to live, and you found out a matching donor passed away but his family would not allow the organ donation because some CEO/Board of the company that processes the organs required the the donor to be vaccinated to get medical care, how would you feel?  

 Would you like the wife of that dead guy to maybe reconsider given you, your daughter and your soon to be dead grandkid had absolutely nothing to do with any of that?
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