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Reply #15 - 06/24/23 at 21:51:42
 

So, if someone handed you a pen and said

Rewrite it..

What would you want it to say?



 I'd remove "well regulated militia" simply because it is misinterpreted, and has lead to successful gun control measures.  The misinterpretation has lead to a string of gun control measures, and more US citizens believing they, as a private citizen, not in a stated/recognized "militia", do not have a right to gun ownership.

 We can try to re-educate millions of people, and continue down the losing path, or remove the tool most used to do damage.  It's always more efficient to remove the damaging component than trying to convince/educate everyone how to use it right.
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Reply #16 - 06/25/23 at 10:30:01
 
 “… I’d remove "well regulated militia" simply because it is misinterpreted …”

         So, what words would the ‘regime’,
                decide to put in place ?

 “… try to re-educate millions of people, and continue down the losing path …”


        (Educating people is a ‘loosing Path ?)
        So DUMBING DOWN, is working !

No reason to teach 2+2=4 in school,
Cause all the ‘kids’, have a phone that does what their mind can not.
The way to learn something now is, ‘Just Google It’.
Never mind that ‘Googling It’, OFTEN TIMES, is the wrong answer, or the, ‘WOKE”  FDS, DFI, Answer.

“… more US citizens believing they, as a private citizen, not in a stated/recognized "militia", do not have a right to gun ownership…”

Those people are the UL Gun Hating, Socialists.
NOT, the people that buy, own, use, have firearms.
  (Well unless you are Bot !)
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #17 - 06/25/23 at 11:49:47
 
So, what words would the ‘regime’,
               decide to put in place ?



 None, the question was what would I do.  


(Educating people is a ‘loosing Path ?)
       So DUMBING DOWN, is working !


 You will lose your lug nuts if they are loose.  That's a simple teaching mechanism to explain how the words "lose" and "loose" differ.  Does it work?  When did you learn basic spelling, before or after the "dumbing down" of the education system?  Oh wait, it was probably auto-correct, the language calculator.  Looks like the problem persists from something other than modern education.  Should we blame auto-correct, the education system, or you for the spelling in your posts?



"Those people are the UL Gun Hating, Socialists.
NOT, the people that buy, own, use, have firearms.
 (Well unless you are Bot !)"


 This proves my point.  Plenty of people know the truth but we still have gun control measures advancing in legislation.  I'd want to solve that problem by taking away the strongest weapon in that field.  If educating people what "well regulated militia" means was an effective strategy then we would see fewer gun control measures.

 But since, just for the 2nd Amendment and no other known topic on the planet, any changes can ONLY be for gun control, then we are screwed anyway.  

 Why couldn't the NRA create a pro-gun proposal?  What makes this one topic impossible to alter in a supporting way?
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Reply #18 - 06/25/23 at 13:54:06
 
IDK if someone could improve on your idea, but I agree that those words Have been used to pretend the second amendment doesn't Do what it does. Unless someone believes the people who wrote the constitution were so Stewpid that they wrote a
Self
Contradictory
ESSENTIAL ELEMENT into it,, then any honest person who is not an absolute idiot knows that they meant that
Shall Not Be Infringed
part.
Maybe the last sentence is all we need.
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The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.
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Reply #19 - 06/25/23 at 14:42:57
 
Eegore wrote on 06/25/23 at 11:49:47:
"...   Should we blame auto-correct, the education system, or you for the spelling in your posts? ..."


What alatumate, spenning, !!!!!!!
       Yus den guud !!!!!

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Reply #20 - 06/25/23 at 15:21:37
 
What alatumate, spenning, !!!!!!!
      Yus den guud !!!!!


 You blame DUMBING DOWN, I blame the human.  Each human "should" educate themselves to the laws they vote on, but we have zero control over that.  The ammunition the legislative agenda uses, that we have control over.  

 I can't make you spell better.  But I can alter the legal language that politicians/lobbyists/lawyers use to create law.

 You can blame DUMBING DOWN all day long, that will never solve your problem.


 Why can't the NRA offer pro-gun rights alterations to the 2nd Amendment?  Why is this specific Amendment unique in your assessment that alterations can ONLY be for gun control?

 
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Reply #21 - 06/25/23 at 16:38:17
 
Eegore wrote on 06/25/23 at 15:21:37:
"...  I can alter the legal language that politicians/lobbyists/lawyers use to create law ..."


Wows, dideint noe, you was a Layer or Potitlin.
Do know any DFI, canna bee a lobboeist.
Do noe dem lobyists, do not make any lays.
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Reply #22 - 06/25/23 at 18:06:04
 
Wows, dideint noe, you was a Layer or Potitlin.
Do know any DFI, canna bee a lobboeist.
Do noe dem lobyists, do not make any lays.


 I didn't claim to be a lawyer or politician.  I have however outlined on here multiple laws in CO and in one instance Nationwide policy that I, along with others, have changed, including the recall of politicians.  Also I have outlined how we successfully defunded the DoD land-grab along the entire Pinon Canyon by altering how the Pentagon legally allocated money to those kinds of projects.  So I don't have to be a lawyer or politician, I just have to get involved.

 What we did not do is blame DUMBING DOWN, to change things and rely on everyone else to change their behavior to what we think is right.  

 We changed the tools the idiots have to negatively impact their constituents.  


 Lobbyists have to use the current language of law, to lobby accurately for a law.  If that language is removed, they can not lobby for it as efficiently since it no longer exists in the law they are lobbying for.  
 

 You can blame DUMBING DOWN all day long, that will never solve your problem.


 Why can't the NRA offer pro-gun rights alterations to the 2nd Amendment?  Why is this specific Amendment unique in your assessment that alterations can ONLY be for gun control?
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Reply #23 - 06/26/23 at 07:54:14
 
Eegore wrote on 06/25/23 at 15:21:37:
" You blame DUMBING DOWN, I blame the human.  ..."
 

Oh Yeas, soes it da, 'Human's fulate', not the person who tache the humean.
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Reply #24 - 06/26/23 at 11:04:00
 
Oh Yeas, soes it da, 'Human's fulate', not the person who tache the humean.

 
 Blaming the education system will never solve your problem.  I would rather remove the tools used to further gun control  legislation, than try to go back in time and change how kids were educated, or try to get people to learn things differently, or anything else with all these variables I can never impact enough.

 Like your spelling, if I actually cared, should I blame the education system, blame auto-correct (the language calculator,) blame You, or should I try to input an AI grammar program into the forum, thus removing a human's ability to place misspelled words into the forum?

 One of those I could do and get results, the others I could not.  I have as much control over how you learned, and what you do, as you do over the "dumbed down" US Education System and how they vote.


 Why can't the NRA offer pro-gun rights alterations to the 2nd Amendment?  Why is this specific Amendment unique in your assessment that alterations can ONLY be for gun control?
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