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05/26/23 at 07:22:38
 
Is it wrong to control the types of things that we put in front of Children? I remember the stores kept Penthouse, Playboy, Magnificent Muppet Muffs behind the counter.
Is it appropriate to tell children that they Could Be THE CENTER of attention and have new clothes and just have a new, exciting life... ?? Is That the stuff they should be thinking about at age ten?
What IS a Good book banning? What if Someone just won't allow you to advertise? Or sell it?

Here is an example,, ohh, and Look at who they are.
When journalist and author Abigail Shrier’s book Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters, positing that transgenderism in teen girls is a social contagion, was released in 2020, Amazon would not allow her to advertise it, and employees of the book-selling giant petitioned for it not to be sold at all. It was twice removed from Target’s shelves, and even a lawyer from the American Civil Liberties Union called for “stopping the circulation of this book.”

With the book’s recent release in Hebrew by Sella Meir, a publisher that specializes in bringing heterodox and conservative voices to light, the debate over whether Shrier’s ideas should even be available in the public square has reached Tel Aviv’s public square: Kikar Atarim, to be precise.

Sella Meir and the Tel Aviv International Salon (TAIS) planned a book launch for Shrier for her to advise parents on what to do if their teen daughters say they are transgender. The event was planned to take place at the glass-windowed strip club-turned-event space overlooking the beach, run by the organization Social Space, for next Sunday, until the publishing house’s owner. Rotem Sella, and TAIS founder Jay Shultz were told it was canceled.

Cancellation of the book's launch in Israel

“We do not host such events,” a woman named Omer wrote. Sella said she called the event “homophobic” in a phone call.

TRUST ME, we are Not Afraid of the homos. The destruction of our society? Yeah.
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Reply #1 - 05/26/23 at 08:41:19
 

Is it wrong to control the types of things that we put in front of Children? I remember the stores kept Penthouse, Playboy, Magnificent Muppet Muffs behind the counter.

 I don't think it's wrong to control the things children can get ahold of.  Pronography being one of those items.  The exposure of pronography is, typically, regulated by law.  Not by individual business owners.

 Amazon and Target are private businesses.  The book Irreversible Damage is not pronography, so I am not sure what the connection is when it comes to preventing children from seeing this book.  If Amazon was attempting to sell pronography to minors, I could see a reason for insisting they stop as it is a violation of law, even through private business access.

 Stopping children from accessing Irreversible Damage is not a crime, letting them see it is also not a crime, so as far as Amazon/Target and this book is concerned, Amazon and Target have the legal authority to sell or refuse to sell the product.  Suing to remove it from a private business sales catalogue seems inappropriate.

 As for Israel they do not have the same rights or laws, so I'm not sure how they should address private businesses distributing information or product in a public square.
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Reply #2 - 05/26/23 at 08:52:29
 
Books in the library showing boys suckin boys is a crime. If not, it should be. For some reason the libtards are offended by the normies not wanting to see the kids encouraged to go Full RootHugger. Why is this happening? I thought school was for learning about things like math and reading. Why are we teaching children about sex with Johnny and Ralph? If you're queer,you'll figure it out on your own.
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Reply #3 - 05/26/23 at 11:30:28
 
 My understanding is that "sex education" is less about how to anatomically interface with another human being, but especially for older kids, how to be safe.

 I think there should be a differentiating terminology where "sex education" is for younger kids and covers the anatomical components of human sexual organs, and rudimentary sexual contact.  The safety components would be addressing the fact that if they are ever sexually abused, they can report it, and it most likely going to be a human they know and trust.

 "Safe Sex" should be for older kids, 6th grade on up where sexual intercourse is beginning, and cover literally any type of safer contact possible.  If abstaining from sexual contact, and scared straight images of STD's worked we would have stopped having teen pregnancies in the 50's.  Ask yourself when some hot girl wanted to go further than third-base if those STD images of genital warts was stopping you from going any further with her, you know, for safety.  

 "Safe Sex" would have to cover homosexual, and every other type of whatever people come up with when it comes to personal identification and sexual contact with others.  I see no reason for gay males to receive less education than straight ones in regard to safety.

 Also addressing exposure and acceptance towards pronography, revenge pron, App-based dating and abuse, rape, and date-rape should be covered in these courses.
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Reply #4 - 05/26/23 at 12:48:55
 
The Class sex ed is, or used to be, as you describe it.
That is not the only time during the day Children are being sexualized.
You understand a parent who was reading iBook From the Library and told to Stop, because what they were saying wasn't suitable for the audience, BUT IT WAS MEANT TO BE READ BY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS...

Don't go thinking what is going on is okay. It's NOT every school, some of   the parents who complained were investigated by the FBI and called domestic terrorists.
America is in Trouble. Absolute perverts are teaching school in places.
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Reply #5 - 05/26/23 at 13:04:43
 
It's all about states rights 'till it don't go yer' way.

Civil war wasn't about slavery...
Then abortion wasn't either.
Now, it education.

This is how you know you're fighting paper tigers.
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Reply #6 - 05/26/23 at 13:50:45
 
I can have an opinion. States rights or parents rights? Who gets to decide what Their kids are exposed to?

I'm dealing with a paper tyrant.
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Reply #7 - 05/26/23 at 15:56:48
 
States rights or women's rights?  Who gets to decide who controls their own body?
When you think one way and they think another,... you should decide?
This is a polls at 70%/30% ...  60%/30% depending on how it's asked.  But pro-choice always is the majority.
When you feel strongly one way and they feel strongly another... shouldn't the decision be up to each individual?
Wouldn't that be democratic?
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Reply #8 - 05/26/23 at 19:16:25
 
Her body? If she wants to chop off HER arm,,okay..
But the BODY you so casually allow her to chop up is the body of the child.
Not HER BODY.
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Reply #9 - 05/26/23 at 20:58:11
 

States rights or parents rights? Who gets to decide what Their kids are exposed to?

 Both.  One thing to remember is not every parent is involved in their kids lives.  The overwhelming amount of sexual and physical abuse when it comes to kids is from their parents.  Nutritional neglect: parents.  Drug exposure: parents.  Alcohol abuse: parents.

 If not for external sources some kids would never get any useful information, get out of abuse cycles, or live.

 It makes sense that active healthy parents should have primary say in what their kid is exposed to.  However if not for some degrees of public education, some kids wouldn't get any education about options in the real-world.  They would only know how to abuse, because they were abused.

 I think when it comes to certain types of education, like sex-ed, or health class, even some economics, the curriculum should be available to parents and they should be able to decide if their kid attends that class.

 What parents should not be able to do is prevent all kids from learning things they don't want their kid to learn.  It's pretty hypocritical to say you want control over what your kid sees, and then also want control over what other human's kids see.
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Reply #10 - 05/26/23 at 23:02:51
 
Right After you point out what lousy parents some kids have you protect their guidance
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Reply #11 - 05/26/23 at 23:59:32
 
 What I said was: It makes sense that active healthy parents should have primary say in what their kid is exposed to.

 Active
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 Inactive abusive parents should not have primary say in what their kid is exposed to.  They don't care anyway.  They would never look at school curriculum, or even make sure their kid goes to school.

 To be clear, I think any known human of any quality of parenting that has a child or children that think they should have control over what their child or children see, are pretty darn hypocritical if they want to control what other known human's child or children see.  

 Why isn't it ok for someone to control what your kid sees, but ok for you to control what their kid sees?
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Reply #12 - 05/27/23 at 04:48:56
 
Way too much nuance to explain. If you don't understand that restricting perverted books from children is something society owes the children, that's on all of you who are confused.
Homosexuality Is perverted.
Atheists may not get it.
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Reply #13 - 05/27/23 at 05:23:12
 
Pro-choice does not always win in a poll exactly because of the way the question is asked. And not surprising but either Sew is being purposely deceptive to this fact or willfully ignorant. Could go either way.

The 61% is a general question about abortion. First trimester the number is 61% agree it should be legal. However, second trimester the numbers drastically flip to 65% against and in the third trimester it’s 80% against.

If abortion laws settled on the first trimester, the debate would go away. It’s the 2nd and 3rd trimesters where normal people feel the need to grant rights and protect an unborn child that can’t protect itself. (Which is the same reason why normal people are against gender reconstructive surgery on 13 and 14-year-olds knowing that they’re not old enough to make a decision like that. They have to be protected from themselves the way unborn babies sometimes need to be protected)

But organizations like Planned Parenthood found a cash cow in 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions and it turned into a political football that backs the pro-life crowd into no abortions corner and the pro-death crowd into abortions anytime up until birth corner, even after birth in the event of a botched abortion, and the baby is born alive, or when defects are detected such has downs syndrome. And yes, mothers have aborted babies after they know they’re the opposite sex of what they wanted. Abortion should never be birth control, but that’s what it’s turned into a lot of poor neighborhoods. It’s hard to get abortion numbers, but there was a report that came out a number of years ago that said 70% of black pregnancies were aborted in New York City.

If you’re in favor of laws that allow unrestricted abortions up to birth, there’s something wrong with you,
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Reply #14 - 05/27/23 at 07:44:20
 
Eegore wrote on 05/26/23 at 20:58:11:

"...  the curriculum should be available to parents and they should be able to decide if their kid attends that class ..."

"...  parents should not be able to do is prevent all kids from learning things they don't want their kid to learn ..."
 


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