Knowing the details would be nice.
Like, why Epps didn't get arrested.
How many FBI were in the crowd
Encouraging people to go in.
Say that didn't happen
So you can find out it did

 I agree.  The difference is I ask "Did an event happen?" then accept any evidence that is available.

 Instead of saying "This event happened." then go find evidence that only supports that view.  That's literally confirmation bias at work.

 Or saying "This event DIDN'T happen" then go look for evidence that only supports that view.  That is also confirmation bias at work.

 People that choose to have adult conversations can tell the difference between someone like me saying:

1: I DO think some thing happened.
or
2: I DONT think something happened.
or
3: I DONT KNOW what happened.

 
 I still would like to know if any of the people that were just walking around were prosecuted.  Who in the video evidence showing proof of people walking around - that are "rotting in jail", are actually IN jail?

Event
Epps was there
He was encouraging people to go in
Not arrested


 I've seen some information claiming Epps was an FBI agent, but nothing that convinces me.  What about the other people encouraging to enter the Capitol?  There is video of many people doing this.  The Epps theory comes from a video of him whispering into Samsel's ear, and him saying he "orchestrated" the event.  He as an FBI sleeper cell that spends a sh!tload of time in Queen Creek for an agent that skilled, openly said he caused the event?  I'd need more information than that, but then again I am not thinking something is factual before I have evidence, then getting online to go find evidence.  

 I think this could go either way in regards to FBI influence, but I think the Epps scenario is a pretty poor way to go about it when comparative strategies would have higher chances of success.  Why use a less effective method?



 Event
 A video of people walking in the Capitol is presented.
 We are told those people are rotting in jail for walking around.
 None of those people are shown to be in jail.


 Who in the video evidence showing proof of people walking around - that are "rotting in jail", are actually IN jail?

Only gun nuts should legislate gun nuts...  

Only trans should legislate trans?...  

Hey goose?.... gander much?  

"Of the 192 people who have been sentenced to incarceration, the average incarceration time levied is 16 months."

 When you have a guy with 10 years and 4 more with 7+ this skews that average upwards when almost everyone else spent a few months incarcerated.  I don't think in this situation that walking in behind a group of people even constitutes a home-confinement or probation charge.


Yes, it appears their were numerous violations of the Speedy Trials Act.

 I'm wondering why the legal representatives of these individuals aren't filing on these violations.  I think a lot of people assume anything past 70 days is an automatic violation.

 I know of a few individuals incarcerated that claim their rights are violated, but their legal team is silent, only to find out they waived their speedy trial right.

 If you waive your right to a speedy trial you don't get to sue for a violation unless the delay exceeds the agreed waiver time.  But on the other end you don't get sympathy if you say you signed a waiver.

 
 List of every case including all signed documents:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

Do you really believe they are just sitting??.................

 I believe they should have made public filings on this violation if they have grounds to do so.



Unless you read through the legal documents of hundreds of incarcerated individuals, that is merely speculation.

 I don't think one has to read through the documents as each is classified by document type and have a title.  A case file of that specific violation would be very easy to search and find by title, description and file number.

 Also not everyone was incarcerated more than 70 days.  That reduces the pool significantly.

 If this isn't enough I can create a separate thread with a breakdown of each person's legal filings.  The link I posted has already done this in full, and is searchable however, so it would be much faster to just do that.

You can do what you please.  Regardless, you provided little to no useful information to support your position.

 What is your useful information that shows people that were/are incarcerated over 70 days, that do not have waivers for speedy trial?  Besides speculation?

 People, in the information I provided, have waivers specific to their speedy trial, or have extenuating circumstances enacted by their own defense.  What else would you need besides the specific and exact paperwork filed with US Courts?  

 I think people just assume more than 70 days is a violation when the real parameters include things like pre-trial motions, dismissal and refiling of charges, witness availability etc.  See 18 U.S.C. § 3162, these all, legally, alter the timeframe.

 I am not aware of any benefit for anyone's legal representation to simply fail to file for such an obvious and provable violation of the 6th.  If the client requests no filing be made they can't go back and claim they had poor legal representation.

 I fully understand violations are possible here, I just don't understand why after months and months, filings aren't being made, or why the legal teams are making it so hard to find them.  If it were me I'd be publicizing these violations, not filing suppression requests.

 Could the "reasonable measures" garbage from the prosecution be that iron clad?  If so why is it not part of any case material?

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/02/23 at 05:45:21:


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I agree.  It (J6) seems about as orchestrated as the Whitmer kidnapping.  How many times in history have stooges been used like puppets to manipulate public opinion the way the "gummit" handlers desire?

Identical information.


Similar, but not Identical.  My understanding is the doj information encompasses all the cases for J6.  The Americangulag information that was cited lists cases where individuals are detained or in prison.  From my brief search the doj is investigating 2k people from their activities on J6.  1,003 have been formally charged, and 476 have plead guilty.  It is a bit easier to sort through the information as half of it was already queried.  

Best regards,