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Who still believes the Official information sources were telling us the truth?

Being kicked around for not buying the bullshittin that was The Official Story is just the way it is. Fine..
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The long-term consequences of Covid-19 vaccination are now being realised…

A year ago, doubly vaccinated Australians were 10.72x more likely to catch Omicron than the unvaxxed. Now they are 20x more likely and the triply or more vaxxed are 35x more likely, as the latest NSW Health stats show (see below).

Meanwhile, the latest Cleveland Clinic Data and the latest US data analysed by Josh Stirling, founder of Insurance Collaboration to Save Livess and former #1 ranked Insurance Analyst, shows a really really disturbing trend.

The damage to health caused by each vaccine dose does not lessen over time. It continues indefinitely.

In fact, CDC All-Cause Mortality data show that each vaccine dose increased mortality by 7% in the year 2022 compared to the mortality in year 2021.

So if you have had 5 doses then you were 35% more likely to die in 2022 than you were in 2021. If you have had one dose then you were 7% more likely to die in 2022 than you were in 2021. If you are unvaxxed then you were no more likely to die in 2022 than you were in 2021.

By a concerned reader

The Cleveland Clinic Data
Here are the Covid infection rates for the 1st 98 days from 2022 September 12, when the bivalent vaccine was first offered to Cleveland Clinic employees. It was not mandated. It was offered.



So on 2022 September 12, 6,199 employees were unvaxxed, 2,359 were single jabbed, 13,804 were double jabbed, 20,798 were triple jabbed and 3,538 were quad jabbed or penta jabbed with the original vaccine, which was designed against the Wuhan Hu1 reference virus, which was NOT isolated from a Human but was generated on a computer.

The results of their study, shown graphically above, demonstrate that the more doses of the original vaccine you took, the more likely you were to catch covid. In other words, the original Covid vaccine is not merely ineffective against Omicron. It is actually anti-effective.

It is therefore not a vaccine against the present strain of Covid. It is an antivaccine. It damages your immune system in a dose-dependent manner. The more shots you took, the more damage you will have done to your immune system.

The writer first saw this from PHE Vaccine Surveillance reports and published his findings to PHE themselves AND on my website and in The Expose, on 2021 October 10.

‘The Science’ has now been established by the Cleveland Clinic. Genetic vaccines damage your immune system and make you not less likely but more likely to be infected with Covid.

Not only that but they have horrendous side effects on the cardiovascular, neurological and reproductive systems as well.

They are nothing short of mandatory progressive euthanasia.

CDC All-Cause Mortality Data shows that every year, every vaccinated person becomes more and more likely to die at a rate of 7% PER JAB PER YEAR. That is a slow-acting genetic poison.
If people were recovering from the 1st jab, then it would not be having precisely the same effect as the 5th jab (namely a 7% increase in mortality). This is the long term problem. People are not recovering from the damage done by the shots in terms of excess mortality.

So taking 2021 as the base line, a 5 dosed person would be 350% more likely to die in 2031 and 700% more likely to die in 2041 and 1050% more likely to die in 2051 than an unvaxxed person. It is just like compound interest.

Using this result, we can calculate the loss in life expectancy for a 30 year old male as follows… The life expectancy of a 30 year old unvaxxed male in the UK is around 80 years. So he can expect another 50 years of life.

In statistical terms, half of his cohort are dead by 80. The life expectancy of a 30 year old quintuply vaxxed person in the UK is 56 years. Assuming UK males respond to the vaccines in the same way as US people. Alternatively quintuply vaxxed US 30 year old males have likewise lost 24 years of life expectancy.

UK life expectancy data is from Statista. In the table below we add the extra 7% mortality per jab per year to the 2020 UK levels shown in Column2. So in a 5 year period, the average increase in expected mortality would be –

(0% + 35%)/2 = 17.5% from one jab

(0% + 70%)/2 = 35% from two jabs

(0% + 105%)/2 = 52.5% from three jabs

(0% + 140%)/2 = 70% from four jabs

(0% + 175%)/2 = 87.5% from five jabs

Life Expectancy for unvaxxed and 1-5 dosed UK males

1 jab robs 30 year old men of 13 years
2 jabs robs 30 year old men of 18 years
3 jabs robs 30 year old men of 20 years
4 jabs robs 30 year old men of 23 years
5 jabs robs 30 year old men of 24 years

That is the price you pay for trusting the NHS, trusting the government and trusting the BBC and the Main Stream Media.

That is what Media like the Expose have been trying to prevent.

NSW Vax status 2023Jan7
The population of New South Wales in Australia was 6,505,883 in 2022. the vaccination status is as follows…

https://www.health.gov.au/our-work/covid-19-vaccines/vaccination-numbers-and-...


NSW Australia data for Hospital and ICU Admissions during the last 6 weeks of 2022 show dose-dependent immune system destruction
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/weekly-reports.aspx

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-over...
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-over...
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-over...
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-over...
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-over...  
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/weekly-covid-over...

NSW Covid ICU admissions 2022Nov19-Dec31



NSW Covid Hospital admissions 2022Nov19-Dec31


There is the proof of immune system destruction by vaccination mediated spike proteins. We see the same pattern for Hospital admissions in Australia as we see for infection rates in Cleveland. The more shots you take the weaker your immune system becomes. And that is for the target of the therapy! The above graphs do NOT address any of the side effects.

Conclusion
The population of NSW in Australia is 6½ million people. They are a highly vaccinated group. Looking at the Australian Government data for the last 6 weeks of 2022 we see that.

1. Those with 1 or 2 doses are 20x more likely to be admitted to hospital with Covid than those with no doses.
2. Those with 3 or 4 or more doses are 35x more likely to be admitted to hospital with Covid that those with no doses.
3. Being unvaxxed provides 100% protection from having to go to the ICU. Being vaxxed gives you a 6 in 100,000 chance of being hospitalised in the ICU.
4. Vaccines are unsafe and extremely antieffective.
5. Covid Vaccination is putting unsustainable pressure on hospitals and ICUs in NSW and by implication all over the world.
6. The NHS in the UK will be destroyed unless vaccinations are banned immediately. It may already be too late.
7. The vaccines prevent herd immunity. Herd immunity will never be reached in the vaxxed. It has already been reached in the unvaxxed
8. The continuation of the pandemic is entirely caused by the anti vaccines.

The last time I looked at the data in NSW, for the last 6 weeks of 2021, the double vaxxed were 2.18x more likely to catch Omicron than the unvaxxed.

Here were are today, 12 months later in the last 6 weeks of 2022, and the double vaxxed are not 2.18x, but actually 20x more likely to catch the latest variant. And the triple jabbed are 35x more likely!

So there is the immune system destruction that I predicted in October2021. There is the progressive vaccine mediated AIDS. These are farcical Monty Python kinds of numbers. As I understand it the Australian government is now going to stop classifying hospital data by vax status.

Talk about bury your head in the sand. In any event. It is too late. The cat is out of the bag. These figures are an accelerating immunological catastrophe.

The data we have analysed are for the disease that the vaccines are supposed to be protecting us from (Covid-19). They do not address the plethora of cardiovascular, neurological, immunological, reproductive and systemic side effects of the genetic anti vaccinations which cause further hospital admissions.

We have given control of our Health Services big pharma and they have destroyed those services. The day will come, if it has not already, when 50% of the patients in our hospitals are suffering from vaccine-mediated pathology.

The question then becomes, how many others in addition to the vaccine damaged are suffering from Big Pharma-mediated pathologies resulting from other Big Pharma ‘medications’?

The credibility and the viability of all health care worldwide is therefore entirely dependent upon the immediate cessation of genetic vaccination.

This is what a slow kill bioweapon program deployed against large populations looks like. The “vaccine” is not so much an antivaccine, but, rather, the DEATHVAX™.

Over time we will in fact come to learn that 5 jabs robs 30 year old men of far more than 24 years. (e.g. one of my friends wrote me last the following: my business partner was in the US for a funeral. 24 year old who died of brain cancer six months after the vaxx. Doctors are mystified, of course.)

Over time deaths and diseases will invariably increase as per the eugenics plan…

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Reply #1 - 02/08/23 at 13:30:04
 
"Being kicked around for not buying the bullshittin that was The Official Story is just the way it is. Fine.."

 I'd say repeatedly using lies, intentional or not, to show "truth" is the problem, not your skepticism.  Show people something that is true and maybe they will listen.  Or at a minimum stop bringing up the same information over and over then complaining that people are responding to that impossible to believe data - that you provided again.


 This article originates from this document that historically won't be read, but people here will argue about it's content with someone who read it for you.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v1.full.pdf

 There's multiple mathematic problems with the assessment provided by the article.  I imagine the fact that they are making money off this has something to do with it.

 So this is a situation where "Official information" is considered inaccurate while using the same kind of Official source as proof.  Why is it ok to deny the accuracy of other documents, without ever looking at them, but not this one?


 Also, a simple one:  Why is base rate fallacy being ignored?

 Here's another:  How do they claim the CDC doesn't acknowledge vaccine related heart conditions when the CDC posts information that does that very thing, such as this from July 2021:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7027e2.htm


 So do we cherry-pick information based off of source (while claiming the source isn't important), or do we use all information to formulate an opinion?
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The Exposé (formerly known as The Daily Exposé)[3] is a British conspiracist website

 Doesn't matter, they wouldn't lie, only the government does, so no need to look at anything, just read the headline since it says something I want to be true.  

 

 Or... the source isn't important, it's just that mostly the government lies, but this source here is to be believed. Even though almost every reference in that article is a government document.  So don't trust the government lies unless the lies say what I want to hear.  Then you can trust those documents, as long as they come from the right source.
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Reply #4 - 02/08/23 at 15:31:14
 
"...The logic that a source is irrelevant as long as the information is correct makes sense, but refusing to look at the information to see if it's correct makes no sense..."

And the circular argument. Goes round and round, and round !

Determination of, ‘correctness’, of information, from any source, is,
         Decided entirely,
if one believes tearing up a speech,
or saying, ‘lier’,
is a correct response to words of a sitting POTUS.
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Determination of, ‘correctness’, of information, from any source, is,
        Decided entirely,
if one believes tearing up a speech,
or saying, ‘lier’,
is a correct response to words of a sitting POTUS.



 I don't agree.  I think correctness can be decided on other things, like if a source claims 8,600,000 kids died in 2021, are there 8,600,000 dead kids?  Is even 1% of that happening?  If not, why is this source repeatedly used and defended?

 Because the information was never even looked at, and arguing with someone who read it for you makes sense for some reason.  If one is going to say government data is wrong, and it often is, don't use garbage claiming over 8 Million kids died in one year as your evidence.  Stop defending it and have the conversation using more accurate numbers from the people that read it for you that are using your own references.

 I understand questioning the legitimacy of data... after you actually look at it.

 Denying the accuracy of data you refuse to look at, because of the source, while saying that a source shouldn't be important, is for lack of better words, weak and hypocritical.  Using the exact material you already claimed is lies is just ridiculous.  Using CDC data to prove CDC data is not accurate, is completely nonsensical.

 Repeatedly asking why data presented, before a vaccine was made, doesn't apply to vaccination impacts is blatantly ignoring time and space as we know it.  Another term would be Spin.

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Reply #6 - 02/08/23 at 21:23:47
 
Blahh Blahh Blahh

You're right
There Is no reason for me or anyone to care what you say.

You can pretend what you want. The dead From
Inflated
The jabs
Everyone saying
Ohh,you need to get them?

Safe and w!!
And the dead From the nabs?

Ohh,no.. Except it is happening, a lot.
You can pretend that because some numbers were wrong
Well, just hafta believe the
CDC, WHO, the Official people..
Yeah, bullshitt.
If you can't see
That is on you.


You should tell your handler that even I can see how much better you are than that amateur T and T

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Well, just hafta believe the
CDC, WHO, the Official people..
Yeah, bullshitt.


 Again with the making up that I ever said to believe the CDC.  I never said that, but who needs truth when you can over-react and make things up I never said because it's easier than having an adult conversation.

 Your own sources in this post come from the CDC.

 You are using CDC documentation in this post.

 Why should we be believing those sources, while you also call those sources "bullshitt"?  If they are lies why are you using them in this post?

 Why do you call information "lies" then use the exact same information to prove your position?

 How can you admit people pre-vaccine were on ventilators and also agree that "Being unvaxxed provides 100% protection from having to go to the ICU."  How the hell did all those people end up in the ICU then?

 Why won't you acknowledge Base-rate?  That has nothing to do with the CDC, WHO, or any organization anywhere ever in existence - it is math.
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Reply #8 - 02/08/23 at 22:53:03
 
Base rate..
Math
Relies on Data,right?

Where does That come from?

How many Young, active, NoCo morbidity Died Suddenly reports are needed to stop heat
They lied to us
And they Continue to push the jabs
Knowing what they are doing??

If the jabs were Fukkin PEANUT BUTTER, there would be None available, because it's So Obvious they are wrecking and ending lives.

And Nobody has any idea about the fertility of the people who have been jabbed?

Hey!!

Howcumizzit the people crossing the border aren't being jabbed?
If it's Important for the Citizens of America to be the guinea pigs,, why are we not asking the ILLEGAL ALIENS to take Their chances, take the jabs...
Of Course, distilled water for them.. The jabs are more dangerous than the disease.

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Base rate..
Math
Relies on Data,right?

Where does That come from?



 You.  In almost every instance of our discussion You have provided the data.  You said the CDC data can't be trusted, then you offer CDC data as evidence.  That's like you saying climate change information from NOAA is inaccurate, "DESTROYED", hockey-stick info and then posting the exact same NOAA information to prove climate models.  Is it lies or not?

 Is it lies?

 Literally every single source in your first post in This thread are government studies and documents.  Are they lies?  Are you just going to claim, falsely, that I said to trust them, that I said that government information is to be trusted?  Or will you actually acknowledge You are using government information?

 Base-rate is empirical mathematical fact.  If more people wear green shirts, more green-shirt wearing people will go to the hospital.  The issue is percentage, but you refuse to acknowledge the second number, because you don't want to "be played".  We all know this is an attempt to avoid discussing realistic numbers.  Unfortunately realistic numbers inhibit your ability to talk about the ethics of the vaccine.


"How many Young, active, NoCo morbidity Died Suddenly reports are needed to stop heat"

 This is a very good question, that in almost every other case but yours, we actually discuss it.  But as long as you ignore pre-Covid rates, and blame pre-vaccine inflammation on the vaccine, then every athlete is a vaccine death.  Do you think anyone is going to believe 100% of all youth deaths are vaccination deaths?  Why do you refuse to use reasonable math?  Why do you argue using sources that even admit their information is not true?

 When you, repeatedly, provide a reference to a video where 7 out of 9 kids died before 2019 - do you really think we are supposed to ignore that?  Would you ignore climate change data where 7 out of 9 points were chronologically impossible?  

 It's like people say the government always lies, so that means everything antigovernmental always tells the truth.  Why not accept that all sources can lie.



"Drop TT a Valentine's hug from me."

 Again with the insults, and you wonder why people don't have a "discussion" with you.  What part of this discussion requires you get back to insulting members, again?
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Reply #10 - 02/09/23 at 15:57:22
 
Since COVID, more young people are dying of heart attacks. Here's what we know
https://www.today.com/health/covid-heart-attack-young-people-rcna69903
A recent study found that heart attacks in people ages 25 to 44 increased by 30% compared to the expected number over the first two years of the COVID-19 pandemic.
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Reply #11 - 02/10/23 at 02:07:27
 
It is of course true that we do not know what the long-term consequences of an infection with covid will be. However, many studies are being done on this.

We also don't know what the long-term consequences of the covid vaccinations are.

But there is no official investigation into this at all.

And people who were vaccinated against covid produced part of the virus and infected others with it. After all, it was the spicks that caused the heart problems and inflammation.

There is also no investigation in to that.

So you can definitely say that no independent studies are being done or published and that a wrong picture has been created about covid and the vaccine.
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A recent study found that heart attacks in people ages 25 to 44 increased by 30% compared to the expected number over the first two years of the COVID-19 pandemic


 This is a more realistic number.  No need to claim millions dead.

 One component that is typically ignored by hardcore anti-vax is the number of unvaccinated Covid infected that get myocarditis.  Literally this is ignored, and for people claiming they want to expose the truth, ignoring about 27% of the data shows that truth is not the goal.

 Just as the "athletes that died" website doesn't care if they were vaccinated, or if they are dead for that matter.  Now if we could examine those with myocarditis, and actually accept as adult humans that both vaccinated and also unvaccinated have it, we could actually look into percentages of how, and what type of vaccine is more deadly.  This is important because there are negative impacts from certain types of the vaccine.

 But instead we get people claiming pre-2018 heart inflammation is from the vaccine, and that being vaccinated shouldn't be a factor in calculating death from the vaccine, and being dead isn't a requirement for death.

 Buy those T-shirts though.
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