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Reply #30 - 01/09/23 at 09:10:04
 
That those sources are trash.  Stop using them,

This is what you don’t seem to ever grasp. Of course they’re trash but they have unbelievable influential power over policy in the US government. That’s a fact.

I am saying that in the popular lexicon of American society, the word armed in a news story almost always implies a firearm. This is evidenced by the fact that I don’t recall hearing any stories about BLM rioters being armed. Now you can say stop listening to the trash and like I said I agree it’s trash but it’s influential trash.

I’m not going to participate in it by pretending January 6 was an insurrection or that it was an armed insurrection.

I understand and appreciate the fact that you agree January 6 was not an insurrection. You’re applying your scientific mind to the definition of the word armed. I’m saying in the lexicon of American society you can’t do that in this particular situation. They’re doing it to create a false narrative and I’m not going to participate in it.
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Reply #31 - 01/09/23 at 09:24:21
 
Legislators and judges say it was an insurrection.
... and tRump was the instigator
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Reply #32 - 01/09/23 at 11:14:07
 
Serowbot wrote on 01/09/23 at 09:24:21:
Legislators and judges say it was an insurrection.
... and tRump was the instigator


Well that settles it because legislators and judges are never, ever wrong and never let personal bias or political ambition interfere with their analysis.
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Reply #33 - 01/09/23 at 14:24:56
 
"This is what you don’t seem to ever grasp. Of course they’re trash but they have unbelievable influential power over policy in the US government. That’s a fact."

 I understand that, but I don't personally use it to prove points, or create counter arguments when addressing local government.  I certainly don't use garbage media to justify altering truth.



"I understand and appreciate the fact that you agree January 6 was not an insurrection. You’re applying your scientific mind to the definition of the word armed. I’m saying in the lexicon of American society you can’t do that in this particular situation. They’re doing it to create a false narrative and I’m not going to participate in it."


 I'd say you do participate in it when you counter false narrative with different false narrative.  What value is there in saying that insurrections in the US must have guns present to be considered armed?  To counter trash reporting?  That makes no sense to me.
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Reply #34 - 01/09/23 at 15:14:19
 
WebsterMark wrote on 01/09/23 at 11:14:07:
Serowbot wrote on 01/09/23 at 09:24:21:
Legislators and judges say it was an insurrection.
... and tRump was the instigator


Well that settles it because legislators and judges are never, ever wrong and never let personal bias or political ambition interfere with their analysis.

Judges interpret the law, legislators make laws.
Their opinion carries a little more weight than ours.
If they deem it insurrection, it is by definition insurrection, because they define the law.

If you commit a robbery that you don't define as robbery, it's still a robbery if the judge says so.
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Reply #35 - 01/09/23 at 15:29:44
 
Serowbot wrote on 01/09/23 at 15:14:19:
WebsterMark wrote on 01/09/23 at 11:14:07:
Serowbot wrote on 01/09/23 at 09:24:21:
Legislators and judges say it was an insurrection.
... and tRump was the instigator


Well that settles it because legislators and judges are never, ever wrong and never let personal bias or political ambition interfere with their analysis.

Judges interpret the law, legislators make laws.
Their opinion carries a little more weight than ours.
If they deem it insurrection, it is by definition insurrection, because they define the law.

If you commit a robbery that you don't define as robbery, it's still a robbery if the judge says so.


You don’t really believe that.
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Reply #36 - 01/09/23 at 15:52:23
 
WebsterMark wrote on 01/09/23 at 15:29:44:
You don’t really believe that.

So if a woman has an illegal abortion, but she thinks all abortion should be legal, she didn't have an abortion?
Legislation and jurisprudence don't matter?

Why vote?

I think I'm starting to get the Right Wing.
F**k laws!...
F**k votes!...
F**k facts!...
F**k science!...
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Reply #37 - 01/09/23 at 15:53:28
 
Eegore wrote on 01/09/23 at 14:24:56:
"...  I don't personally use it to prove points, or create counter arguments when addressing local government.
 I certainly don't use garbage media to justify altering truth. ..."

OK, Got it !!!!!!!
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Reply #38 - 01/09/23 at 16:09:09
 
Serowbot wrote on 01/09/23 at 15:14:19:
So why when someone,
shoots and kills someone else,
IN COLD BLOOD,
with absolutely NO FEAR of their life,  
those same DFI FDS Socialists
totally IGNORE it
?

Once and for all.... Babbitt wasn't killed because of her personal threat,...(if she had been alone, I doubt she would have been shot), she was the unfortunate spearhead of the hundreds of raging protesters behind her.
If she had broken through, it would have released the floodgate of brainwashed dupes out for blood behind her.
Behind that last line of defense were duly elected representatives rightfully in fear of their lives.
Not that she was innocent, but she didn't deserve to die.
Neither did anyone else.
But that blood is on the hands of the insurrectionists not the guards.

You commit crime... and someone dies... it's your responsibility...  That's the law.
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Re: Happy Pretend Insurrection Day!
Reply #39 - 01/09/23 at 16:23:54
 

So why when someone,
shoots and kills someone else,
IN COLD BLOOD,
with absolutely NO FEAR of their life,  
those same DFI FDS Socialists
totally IGNORE it ?



 I don't think it was ignored.  I see evidence all over that the shooting was acknowledged on both sides.  Considering Law Enforcement doesn't have to be in fear for their own life to use deadly force, this sounds like spin.  But then again you also said they have a duty to retreat.  Cops that have a duty to retreat, that's real helpful.
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