This isn't so bad. It is quite normal in Europe.

The New Year is celebrated with fireworks and everyone gets pretty drunk. Fighting among the youth is tradition. It is usual that some cars go on to the bon fire and if it gets out of hand then the police come and then they fight the police.

It has been that way as long as I lived and when I was a young I happily participated in it.
It's just that there are a lot of young immigrants now a days and they also happily participate. In that respect they are well integrated.

Everyone in europe is propperly insured. So the damage is a bit impractical, that's al.

This year I rode my bike through the city on New Year's eve. About 8 km or so and I have seen roughly estimated about 100 fires. For Dutch standards that is a quiet night.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PrLMZuA0e8
Tis was last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb9z_ZGfvUk
The good old time,s,

 I think things that are wrong or unethical can be normal.

 I don't think they should be, but I think they can be.  The field for where the assessment begins and ends is too variable to attach an ethical stance to a normal one.

"This year I rode my bike through the city on New Year's eve. About 8 km or so and I have seen roughly estimated about 100 fires. For Dutch standards that is a quiet night."

 Exactly.  I've been in Europe for this as well and I'd say it's not all that uncommon.  Of course in the US we do things that other countries think is ridiculous and dangerous as well.  When I questioned this "riot like" behavior years ago my associate asked me how many people died in Los Angeles last Tuesday from gunshots.  He had a point.

When corruption, destruction, bad things are
Normal
It's time to go against what is creating it.

I grew up in a town that was notorious for this kind of thing. And I lived in the most notorious neighborhood. I didn't find out until I was 20 that it wasn't normal.

I must add that it has become increasingly quiet in recent years. But also that the police also enjoyed being able to beat up all the annoying citizens. In this way, the tradition continued.

Because there is a strict gun law in Europe. Not many were injured over the years. The worst thing that could happen was you got beat up. and broke some bones. When I see how things are going with you, I have the impression that you really want to kill each other. I suspect that you are Realy fearful, because that's where aggression comes from.

And we don't have the race problem here.
With us on New Year's Eve, everyone is partying. Black, yellow, brown, white celebrate together. When I am stopped by immigrants on New Year's Eve, they greet me like a brother and I get beer and hugs and they sing to me and I have to dance with them.

The policemen also allow themselves to go that way. In Europe we are just a bit more passionate when it comes to partying. But I get  your concern. And I'd rather not have the excesses either, but that's the way it is. But no one is too concerned about it except the politicians, but yes that is part of their function.

I'm just mentioning this because the beginning of this topic was about riots by immigrants in berlin, and I don't want you to think that things are escalating here.

It,s normal.

 Normal is relative and kind of a waste of time to define when you guys are both using totally different evaluative timeframes.  Anything can become "not normal" when we alter time and locations.  Its not "normal" to burn a vehicle unless you go to a collision test track.  Then it is "normal"

 But it's not "normal" to burn vehicles at a collision test track from the hours of 1800 - 0700.  So if we use only that time then burning vehicles is "not normal" even at a location where it can be "normal".  

 It's not "normal" to burn cars on a public street.  Unless we decrease the timeframe to the hours of New Years Eve in specific locations.  Just as it's not "normal" to burn cars, unless we decrease the timeframe of car-burn tests on working days in specific locations like test centers.
 
 PG is potentially defining "normal" to a large area of geographical space on Earth and multiple humans over the course of multiple days over a span of time.  Z is defining "normal" to a few hours in a small location he exclusively witnesses.  

It's normal that people realize that is necessary?
The elections are not honest. People are dumping stacks of ballots in the boxes.
Don't blame the people who are trying to stop the steal.
But it's normal to have a summer of riots,burning, looting, hurting and killing people, and for the most part, nobody is arrested.
The FBI sureasFUKK haven't used their abilities to hunt THOSE people down..
But they can hunt grandma down after she followed people through doors BEING HELD OPEN BY THE CAPITOL POLICE,,,

They were forced to keep quite a distance from the boxes.
Funny how cool it was when the Black Panther guys were hovering around polling places was perfectly Fiine.
Either Both are or neither is.
If One Is and the Other ISN'T, then if that is how someone sees it, that person SUCKS.