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Reply #15 - 11/09/22 at 14:08:33
 

Yes, the temp of the water, S L O W L Y , rising.
    IS, 'a serious concern', !



 Yep along with all 50 other gun control schemes that we have been waiting to boil.  If it keep increasing at this pace we might reach the speed of global warming predictions that never come true.
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Reply #16 - 11/09/22 at 14:43:25
 
Eegore wrote on 11/09/22 at 14:08:33:
"  Yep along with all 50 other gun control schemes that we have been waiting to boil.  ...".

So you believe their are only 50 Gun Control Schemes over the last 245 years ?
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #17 - 11/09/22 at 15:21:31
 
To Mn, everything looks like gun control.

When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail... Grin
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Reply #18 - 11/09/22 at 19:19:27
 

So you believe their are only 50 Gun Control Schemes over the last 245 years ?

 I do not.  I don't know the number but I know how many have taken all of our guns away.
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Reply #19 - 11/10/22 at 05:26:12
 
It’s very doubtful any serious Federal law will be a challenge to gun ownership anytime soon. I’ve said before Trump deserves a small bust carved on Mt Rushmore for a few great moves he made, and in this case,  his Supreme Court picks. McConnell too for keeping Garland off.

I know Democrats are acting like they won, but they’re going to lose the house, they lost several seats in NY, Florida is solidly red, border districts in Texas switched to red and Lake still has an above 50/50 chance of winning Arizona. My Governor in Missouri is not going anywhere either. Point is, local control still matters. The vast majority of gun crimes happen in large urban areas, not in the sticks which means, like a lot of other things, what’s good for the goose isn’t always good for the gander.

I’m not too worried about gun laws right now. There’s a lot more to worry about. Frankly, everyone I know who would stand up, if the true meaning behind the 2nd Amendment ever occurred, is already prepared.
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Reply #20 - 11/10/22 at 06:59:37
 
“…doubtful any serious Federal law will be a challenge to gun ownership anytime soon….”

True, and it is because of the stalwart efforts of Patriots.

If Citizens believed people saying, (to the like) “…no one wants to remove your guns, simply because not ALL your guns have been removed…”
If Citizens believed people saying, (to the like), “…if ‘we’ take this model of gun, you will be safe…”
If Citizens believed people saying, (to the like), “…gun possession requirements are not good enough…”
If Citizens believed people saying, (to the like), “…no one needs a gun…”
If Citizens believed people saying, (to the like), “…You can't have a gun, but I can…”

    It would be a completely different story.

That is why Patriots, need to keep reminding the people that want to turn this, Free Democratic Republic, into a Socialist, Dictator, Shitt hole.
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Reply #21 - 11/10/22 at 07:54:35
 
WebsterMark wrote on 11/08/22 at 10:13:01:
…….destroy Democracy. You think it would take longer.

Steve Schmidt will easily win the Senate seat from Missouri as a Republican replacing a former Republican. There was talk that this seat was in jeopardy but that was nonsense, it never was.

And my representative in the house will remain the same.

We had a constitutional amendment to legalize recreational marijuana which I voted against. I’m strongly against that.





I understand that someone can be fiercely against drugs. But why are you not against the recreational use of alcohol?

I've seen so many people completely destroyed by alcohol. It is many times more addictive than cannabis and some other drugs.
In business too, alcohol is one of the biggest problems in the workplace.

I once worked in a company where people were strapped around the anvil on Monday mornings because they were still drunk from the night before. And that they were only able to strike again after a good drink. On Friday afternoon, most of theaccidents here happen because of a farewell drink at work.

I don't want to justify cannabis, but I see that it has good sides where alcohol only has bad sides.

So here again my question, why are you not against recreational use of alcohol?
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Reply #22 - 11/10/22 at 07:56:27
 
zevenenergie wrote on 11/10/22 at 07:54:35:
WebsterMark wrote on 11/08/22 at 10:13:01:
…….destroy Democracy. You think it would take longer.

Steve Schmidt will easily win the Senate seat from Missouri as a Republican replacing a former Republican. There was talk that this seat was in jeopardy but that was nonsense, it never was.

And my representative in the house will remain the same.

We had a constitutional amendment to legalize recreational marijuana which I voted against. I’m strongly against that.





I understand that someone can be fiercely against drugs. But why are you not against the recreational use of alcohol?

I've seen so many people completely destroyed by alcohol. It is many times more addictive than cannabis and some other drugs.
In business too, alcohol is one of the biggest problems in the workplace.

I once worked in a company where people were strapped around the anvil on Monday mornings because they were still drunk from the night before. And that they were only able to strike again after a good drink. On Friday afternoon, most of theaccidents here happen because of a farewell drink at work.

I don't want to justify cannabis, but I see that it has some good sides, where alcohol only has bad sides.

So here again my question, why are you not against recreational use of alcohol?








It's pure poison. You can literally drink yourself to death.
It makes you fat and you get diabetes. You are going to hit your wife. And if you drink it, you don't solve your problems. There is a good chance that you will buy a savage and join a forum where you will proclaim all kinds of extremely conservative ideas.
And preserve ideas that we'd better get rid of. Wink
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Reply #23 - 11/10/22 at 08:28:59
 
MnSpring wrote on 11/10/22 at 06:59:37:
“…doubtful any serious Federal law will be a challenge to gun ownership anytime soon….”

True, and it is because of the stalwart efforts of Patriots.

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And you’re probably right about that.
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Reply #24 - 11/10/22 at 08:31:14
 
zevenenergie wrote on 11/10/22 at 07:54:35:
WebsterMark wrote on 11/08/22 at 10:13:01:
…….destroy Democracy. You think it would take longer.

Steve Schmidt will easily win the Senate seat from Missouri as a Republican replacing a former Republican. There was talk that this seat was in jeopardy but that was nonsense, it never was.

And my representative in the house will remain the same.

We had a constitutional amendment to legalize recreational marijuana which I voted against. I’m strongly against that.





I understand that someone can be fiercely against drugs. But why are you not against the recreational use of alcohol?

I've seen so many people completely destroyed by alcohol. It is many times more addictive than cannabis and some other drugs.
In business too, alcohol is one of the biggest problems in the workplace.

I once worked in a company where people were strapped around the anvil on Monday mornings because they were still drunk from the night before. And that they were only able to strike again after a good drink. On Friday afternoon, most of theaccidents here happen because of a farewell drink at work.

I don't want to justify cannabis, but I see that it has good sides where alcohol only has bad sides.

So here again my question, why are you not against recreational use of alcohol?


Using that logic, let’s legalize and collect taxes on recreational fentanyl.

I’m not against outlying recreational use of alcohol because I’m, metaphorically speaking anyway, a dinosaur.
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Reply #25 - 11/10/22 at 08:35:25
 
I used to "partake" quite a lot when I was younger,... but I tried some medicinal grade pot about year ago... and that stuff is powerful!
I definitely wouldn't drive under the influence.

That said,... I do believe in legalization.  No worse than alcohol... and as a practical matter, paying $60,000 a year to jail these people is crazy.
PS,FWIW... for profit prisons are the biggest anti-legalization lobby.
Money rules....
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Reply #26 - 11/10/22 at 08:45:13
 
for profit prisons are the biggest anti-legalization lobby

Says a lot, dunnitt?

Of Course it does make sense. If you're gonna Lease an Apartment to someone, would you rather have a pot head or a burglar, etc, any other criminal type..
It might be a good topic for a whole thread, but the For profit prisons just don't feel right to me. Especially when they agree to build in a state IF the state will sign a contract agreeing to keep them filled up to a certain percentage. How can they do that?
IDK where or when I saw that, maybe it's bogus,
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Reply #27 - 11/10/22 at 08:53:17
 

Using that logic, let’s legalize and collect taxes on recreational fentanyl.


 Marijuana has considerably more measured medicinal benefits than fentanyl but without the extremely deadly side effects.  If a gram of fentanyl wouldn't kill multiple people maybe it would be reasonable to make recreational vs prescription.

 I don't think there is a good answer when it comes to the societal and ethical aspects of marijuana vs alcohol.  If you take somebody that has never used either and compare impact per volume consumed, marijauna is much much safer than alcohol.

 From a medical impact standpoint alcohol does more extensive damage to the average human.

 So the only leverage alcohol has is the economic impact.  Alcohol is an economy and it directly, positively, impacts many people from career-entry jobs like being a server/bartender to running a distillery and having global distribution.

 Economically alcohol has a leg to stand on, but in regards to everything else it's just an issue of saying we are ok with the risks of harm if it is from alcohol, but not marijuana.
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Reply #28 - 11/10/22 at 08:57:24
 
The Stop Alcohol extremists won,once. It didn't work out either.
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Reply #29 - 11/10/22 at 08:58:46
 

Especially when they agree to build in a state IF the state will sign a contract agreeing to keep them filled up to a certain percentage. How can they do that?

 By moving State held prisoners into Private prisons.  Not by imprisoning more people by means of bogus charges.  I've run riot and stab-n-jab simulations for State prisons for years and have heard about this percentage requirement stuff.  It's cheaper to pay private than State, so the middle ground isn't to prosecute more citizens which is also more cost, its instead to funnel inmates to a more cost-effective option for the State while assuring jobs will be available for Private.

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