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Howcumizzit we are running short of diesel?
11/02/22 at 07:19:56
 
It's not like ya get a buncha diesel from a barrel of oil. Not every barrel of oil makes the same things. Some oil makes a buncha asphalt and other oil makes more light fluids,
Ohh, in the defense of petroleum, some of you may have noticed that Asphalt is found in the bottom of the cracking tower,, and it's something you have likely heard of. Hint
Roads, where cars go. Yes,even electric ones.
So, where Did the diesel go?
Did it just not show up? It's usually produced at around 10 or 12 gallons per barrel of oil refined.
Did our oil use drop ? So less diesel is available?
Did we start using more diesel?


But they should Totally be allowed to control our lives and protect the planet.
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Reply #1 - 11/02/22 at 07:37:56
 
 We were importing 700,000 barrels-per-day of petroleum and petroleum products prior to Russia doing their thing in Ukraine.  There has been a reduction in that.
 
 Multiple refineries, mostly unprofitable ones were closed over the past 2 years.  More than normal.

 Then there are the standard annual maintenance schedules that start this time of year and it is normal to see distillate demand peak.

 So while the demand and maintenance always create a reduction this time of year, the import reduction and refinery reduction added to the shortage.

 The Tucker Carlson nonsense of having only "25 days" of diesel left or the "this country is about to run out of diesel fuel" is exactly that, nonsense.  The planet is still moving, production and imports didn't just come to a complete halt.  Inventory is different than production, distribution (Mississippi drought) and acquisition.  
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Reply #2 - 11/02/22 at 08:03:58
 
planet is still moving, production and imports didn't just come to a complete halt.  Inventory is different than production, distribution (Mississippi drought) and acquisition

Yeah, the wife was asking and I pointed out
More diesel is added every day. The question is, are we keeping up with how fast it's used? If not, do we have enough in inventory to get us through till the Turnaround work is done? I lived in Odessa and am well aware of the annual maintenance on refineries and the flurry of activity that creates.
Unprofitable refineries,, kinda sounds like words that hardly even fit in the same sentence. .  
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Reply #3 - 11/02/22 at 08:27:29
 
And there's the reason why Biden hasn't been too hard on the emirates:

America produces too little oil to meet its own demand.

And behold trump, he started right away with; we must produce more oil when he became president.

He knows: Thou shalt not kiss ass, to get a good deal.
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Reply #4 - 11/02/22 at 09:14:46
 
And America was, for the first time in my memory, energy independent.
Imagine if you could produce what you need at home.
The first thing biden did was kick the legs out from under our energy sector.
Hey,I get it. No mean tweets! The destruction of the economy is just the price for being rid of Oranges Man, and it's Totally Wurfitt!
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Reply #5 - 11/02/22 at 14:06:04
 
 What is your definition of "energy independence"?

 Is it no imports of oil?
 
 Exporting more energy than we import?

 Producing more energy than we use?

 Depending on your definition an accurate timeframe can be made.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/imports-and-exports.php
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Reply #6 - 11/02/22 at 16:34:26
 
Ohh,I don't know, what's Your definition of  wrecking the energy sector.
I'm NOT splitting hairs with you. Biden absolutely FUKKED America. How's that?
Need further clarification?
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Reply #7 - 11/02/22 at 16:48:39
 
Aaand, we're exporting diesel.
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Reply #8 - 11/02/22 at 17:38:05
 
What is your definition of "energy independence"?


Well, I'll start with producing and consuming enough oil so we don't have record gas prices.  Moreover, if we managed this commodity properly, we would not have the strategic oil reserves at a record low level.

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Reply #9 - 11/02/22 at 19:14:29
 

Ohh,I don't know, what's Your definition of  wrecking the energy sector.
I'm NOT splitting hairs with you. Biden absolutely FUKKED America. How's that?
Need further clarification?



 All it clarifies is you won't have an adult conversation about the question you posed to this forum.

 Energy independence, your leverage in this argument, means something different to each person and will take effect at different points in time, depending on how You define it.

 How I see it is if the data doesn't say Biden Bad, Trump Good, then it will be dismissed without ever being looked at.

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Reply #10 - 11/02/22 at 19:25:49
 
"Well, I'll start with producing and consuming enough oil so we don't have record gas prices."

 So this is less "Energy" independent and more so "Oil" independent.  Energy Independent would include natural gas, renewables, coal, etc. production calculated against our net consumption.  So to look at oil exclusively I would say in mid 2006 our oil independence truly started and mostly took place during the Obama Administration.  Trump made a huge move with the 2015 bill increasing our export potentials.

 Now if we say zero oil import is "oil" independence then we haven't done that since the 1940's.  

 People for some reason want to ignore the impact Covid and shutting down large sectors of our economy had on oil demand in the US.  What is happening now is the production has not recovered at the same rate as demand.  Biden's antics won't have a direct measurable reflection for a while, but specific to oil independence if that's what you consider it, his impact will reduce that for sure.
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Reply #11 - 11/02/22 at 20:01:22
 
We were exporting and importing.
So, we were better off than in any of our lives before FUKKSTIK wrecked it.
You want a different word? It's only important now?
You just want to divert the conversation, diminish it, whatever it takes to avoid admitting what a MUTHRRFUKKIN disaster biden is
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Reply #12 - 11/02/22 at 21:03:03
 

"You just want to divert the conversation, diminish it, whatever it takes to avoid admitting what a MUTHRRFUKKIN disaster biden is"

 Energy production data doesn't care about Biden, I just asked what You think energy independence is.  If all you want to say is Biden is bad, ok I get it.  I however am capable of discussing a topic without being emotionally invested in what somebody else's opinion of the POTUS is.

 See how PG and I can actually discuss the topic you brought up?
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Reply #13 - 11/03/22 at 07:14:59
 
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Reply #14 - 11/03/22 at 09:11:06
 
I'm pretty sure Trump wasn't the only source.
I too stand corrected.

Well, so, what That means is
Biden did it RIGHT!
Right?..
Nope..
He damaged America. You and everyone IN America.
FJB,
Even the people running for office don't Want him around.
He's a train wreck.
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