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Reply #15 - 11/01/22 at 12:36:09
 
Point to a time in history when the people who were censoring others were the good guys.
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Reply #16 - 11/01/22 at 13:27:38
 
 I think a large part of the problem is equating social media posts and shares with actual evidence and information.

 Social media is not news, or verified research on pretty much any topic.  It's just an avenue for anyone to post things for everyone else to see using a private business's tools.  That's it.  

 Twitter isn't a public forum where people should be going to learn about political policy, law, or how they should vote in an election, but they do anyway.  Also the international infiltration is pretty thorough, like the Iran accounts.  So Twitter does have a certain responsibility to mitigate some of the damage that can be done, and they do not have to use the government to do that.  However since they are a private company, if they choose to, that is their privilege.

 Now that being said, the fact that I can acknowledge private ownership in the US is not equal to me being "excited" about what every private owner does with everything they own.  

 Why shouldn't Twitter, or any private company, have the choice to work with the US Government?
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Reply #17 - 11/01/22 at 13:36:43
 
Trump mentioned once,.. the proverbial 350lb guy Tweeting in his basement.
He never realized he was that guy....

Robespierre incited the people to riot with lies and exaggerations while letting power go to his head... he ended up with his head in a bucket.
"Let them eat cake!" - Marie Antoinette never said                        
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Reply #18 - 11/01/22 at 13:40:03
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/01/22 at 12:36:09:
Point to a time in history when the people who were censoring others were the good guys.



I'm not missing anything.
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Reply #19 - 11/01/22 at 13:48:10
 
Point to a time in history when the people who were censoring others were the good guys.

 It depends on who's side you are on.  I wouldn't be a fan of someone playing recordings of pornography over the radio waves all day, so in my opinion the FCC, in that regard, is a good guy.  But then they want to over-regulate communication content then they are the bad guy.

 It's ok to keep Hillary off TS but not ok to keep Trump off Twitter.  Unless you are on the other side then it's ok to keep Trump off Twitter but not of to keep Hillary off TS.

 I think a big part of this is that the "I will just go start my own social media" crowd is simply not succeeding so now they want back on Twitter or wherever the larger more successful businesses are.  Those big media outlets are successful for a reason, and kicking some people off their property might be part of that.
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Reply #20 - 11/01/22 at 13:59:39
 
Is book banning censorship?
What about banning the teaching of America's history of slavery?
What about whitewashing the Civil War?
What about ignoring evolution?
What about banning books and films that include gays or trans characters?

You're right... censorship is bad.
...but wait... would teaching white supremacy in schools be good?  or should we not allow that?
How about teaching the holocaust didn't happen?
Auschwitz ain't real?
How about we teach them Democrats eat babies?
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Reply #21 - 11/01/22 at 14:09:08
 
Any need for Twitter to censor this?

MAGA porn, hate for Trump: China-based accounts stoke division
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/01/china-midterms-twitter-n...
A fake China-based account called MAGA ‘Hot Babe’ was among nearly 2,000 that sought to influence America’s midterms and were removed by Twitter

One network that Twitter removed, the data showed, included 22 user accounts that tweeted more than 250,000 times. Between April and early October, their posts were generally pro-Trump and conspiratorial, particularly about the pandemic and coronavirus vaccines.
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Reply #22 - 11/01/22 at 15:38:23
 
Serowbot wrote on 11/01/22 at 11:28:02:
If they are lies that incite loons to grab hammers or AR15's, I'm all for banning them. ..."


Who/What, are you all for Banning ?

The 'Loons', The 'Hammers', or a particular model/style of a firearm ?


Serowbot wrote on 11/01/22 at 11:28:02:
"... blatant, malicious lies but some people are willing to believe anything.


Do you know anybody that does that ???????

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Reply #23 - 11/01/22 at 16:35:13
 
Serowbot wrote on 11/01/22 at 11:28:02:
If they are lies that incite loons to grab hammers or AR15's, I'm all for banning them.

Brainwashing people into thinking their votes don't count, or that the political opposition eats babies, or that Jews have secret powers over them, is insane, but a lie repeated often enough becomes believable.
As demonstrated on this site.

Pelosi's attacker was not his gay lover and was not caught in his underwear.
These are blatant, malicious lies but some people are willing to believe anything.


You’re f’ing kidding right? You still believe the most ridiculous Kavanaugh lies. You repeated them. Some guy got caught with weapons on his way to kill his whole family yet you continue to tell those blatant, malicious lies because some people are willing to believe anything.
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Reply #24 - 11/01/22 at 16:44:16
 
Eegore wrote on 11/01/22 at 13:27:38:
 I think a large part of the problem is equating social media posts and shares with actual evidence and information.

 Social media is not news, or verified research on pretty much any topic.  It's just an avenue for anyone to post things for everyone else to see using a private business's tools.  That's it.  

 Twitter isn't a public forum where people should be going to learn about political policy, law, or how they should vote in an election, but they do anyway.  Also the international infiltration is pretty thorough, like the Iran accounts.  So Twitter does have a certain responsibility to mitigate some of the damage that can be done, and they do not have to use the government to do that.  However since they are a private company, if they choose to, that is their privilege.

 Now that being said, the fact that I can acknowledge private ownership in the US is not equal to me being "excited" about what every private owner does with everything they own.  

 Why shouldn't Twitter, or any private company, have the choice to work with the US Government?


You’re missing something Eegore. The reality is Twitter has a tremendous reach and influence. If it didn’t, we wouldn’t object when China censors info on Twitter from its people. Yes, Twitter is a private company but we have all sorts of laws regulating private companies when their influence becomes so large. We prevent large companies from merging because the stranglehold on the market would damage society. Why did we break up Ma Bell all those years ago?

The issue is a law enforcement department, the FBI, used the fear of retribution from them, and asked Twitter (and mostly Facebook) to withhold information that some analysts say changed the course of the 2020 election.  That’s wrong.
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Reply #25 - 11/01/22 at 17:33:14
 
Serowbot wrote on 11/01/22 at 13:59:39:
Is book banning censorship?
What about banning the teaching of America's history of slavery?
What about whitewashing the Civil War?
What about ignoring evolution?
What about banning books and films that include gays or trans characters?

You're right... censorship is bad.
...but wait... would teaching white supremacy in schools be good?  or should we not allow that?
How about teaching the holocaust didn't happen?
Auschwitz ain't real?
How about we teach them Democrats eat babies?



Please provide more relevant data - censorship in schools, media, private organizations.  Now where collusion with government entities begins & ends is a different matter.  

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