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Reply #15 - 10/25/22 at 10:29:36
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/25/22 at 10:10:46:
Well I guess we can stop arguing about this because you’re right,  the obvious solution is to handover a product 99.999% of us enjoy and use legally and without harming others, handover over a weapon which we can use as our last line of defense, and handover over a constitutional right to protect ourselves from an out-of-control government.


Honest truth.  Thank you
This is a price we are willing to pay.
One day that may change, but for now, our priorities are what they are.
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Reply #16 - 10/25/22 at 10:32:47
 
There is more than one reason why I and others refuse to accept another lefty solution to a problem. First, the Right to Keep and Bear arms.
Second
Let's just Pretend ALL the guns are gone.
Do cops and military still have them?
Uhh,yeah,, so they Aren't All Gone,,
Any dikkhead can slap a gun together and Use it to kill someone who Has a much better gun.
You will NOT stop evil people from committing murder. They do have a common trait.
They Really Like them to be in places where law abiding citizens are not allowed to have a gun.

You knew that, right?

Have you actually bothered to look at world events? It's happening in other places, too.

Even if the staff are armed, killers are gonna kill. Maybe they change targets. Hit office buildings, or set up from a distance and see how many people in the stadium they can get.
Your answer is just as likely to work as the Sign that people like you foisted on the people.
The only reasonable thing to do is what WORKS. Defend the children. Arm staff.

Have you heard of a school that allows the staff to carry get shot up?
Me neither. You want Good Guy with a Gun to be rare or a myth, but as carry laws have moved toward Freedom, more citizens are armed and more GGWAG endings are being seen.

Remember how it was gonna be Blood in the Streets when the carry laws changed?

You were wrong then, Too.
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Reply #17 - 10/25/22 at 10:42:46
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/25/22 at 08:54:20:
"The point of the Onion quote is that there is only one obvious solution ..."


'obvious solution' ??????
Like the wonderful sign, 'No Guns here'
Or the perfectly working, 'You can't have a gun'.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #18 - 10/25/22 at 11:44:54
 
Killer was lonely and didn't have a girlfriend  Roll Eyes
He was 19... a 21 or 26 year old purchase law would have stopped this.
He used an AR15... again it's the mass murder tool of choice.
I'll bet he bought it recently.
He has 600 rounds of ammo.

PS... Eegore just disagreed with me.
Just thought I should point that out because you say it never happens Huh
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Reply #19 - 10/25/22 at 12:22:28
 
No, I don't.
He disagreed with you about the windmills, too.
Others have pointed out to him how much he disagrees with me and not you for the most part. I know his response.
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Reply #20 - 10/25/22 at 13:20:53
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/25/22 at 12:22:28:

Others have pointed out to him how much he disagrees with me and not you for the most part.

'Cause he's smart...  Grin Grin Grin

Jes' kiddin'  Cool
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Reply #21 - 10/25/22 at 15:06:18
 
Serowbot wrote on 10/25/22 at 10:29:36:
WebsterMark wrote on 10/25/22 at 10:10:46:
Well I guess we can stop arguing about this because you’re right,  the obvious solution is to handover a product 99.999% of us enjoy and use legally and without harming others, handover over a weapon which we can use as our last line of defense, and handover over a constitutional right to protect ourselves from an out-of-control government.


Honest truth.  Thank you
This is a price we are willing to pay.
One day that may change, but for now, our priorities are what they are.


And we have vehicle accidents that kill thousands every year. We could cut that down to a fraction if we set the driving age at 26 with a 40 mph limit.
Will we do that? No. Would it prevent thousands of deaths? Yes

We don’t do it, and you would not be in favor of it, because we have all (whether consciously or unconsciously) made a calculation and determined the change that we all admit would save lives is just simply too restrictive for our culture / society. So yes, 16 year old drivers and 70 mph speed limits cause a certain number of random deaths you are okay with that.
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Reply #22 - 10/25/22 at 15:17:19
 
You're putting words in my mouth.

I would make a 60mph maximum nationwide speed limit.
I would have graduated licensing for young people.
No children on Hyabusa's or 700hp sports cars.
In fact I'm not even sure those vehicles should be allowed on public roads at all.

Before you go calling me a commie, socialist... keep in mind that we already have speed limits and licenses requirements and there are vehicles that aren't allowed on roads.

In the 60's a 650cc bike was a big bike,... a muscle car was any car that could do 0-60 in less than 7 seconds, they had 300 to 400hp.
We now have 0-60 times under 3 seconds and hp's over 1,000.
When does it stop?
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Reply #23 - 10/25/22 at 16:06:52
 
You might be surprised by this, but those electric cars you're so in love with are some of the, if not The quickest cars on the road. BAN THEM!!!
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Reply #24 - 10/25/22 at 16:11:17
 
Over 400hp... I would ban.  Maybe over 300hp.
Who needs it?
It's impossible to legally use it.
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Reply #25 - 10/25/22 at 18:45:34
 
So?
IDK if you are able to see it, but the truth of the matter is
You're a tyrant. An impotent tyrant, but tyrant, nonetheless.
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Reply #26 - 10/26/22 at 06:48:32
 
And you want to tell women what to do with their bodies.
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Reply #27 - 10/26/22 at 09:27:18
 
They already Did what they wanted with Their body.
They want to kill the body of the baby that is growing in them.

You Do Know that stuff they drag out and bag up,the stuff with the blood coming out? That is flesh and bone and blood..
That is someone Else's body.
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Reply #28 - 10/26/22 at 11:10:28
 
"No, I don't.
He disagreed with you about the windmills, too.
Others have pointed out to him how much he disagrees with me and not you for the most part. I know his response."


 And electric car fires.

 This is accurate.  Other people have commented in regards to how JoG and I communicate in regards to frequency specific to my responses, in contrast to responses to Serowbot.  JoG seems to care about it as much as I do and by that I mean not at all.  



"They already Did what they wanted with Their body."

 Sometimes.  I still see no reason to force rape victims and children to carry to full-term.

 I see no issue with morning after pills as there is no flesh or bone.
 
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Reply #29 - 10/26/22 at 11:26:46
 
I think if you have the right to bear arms in law, then you also have a responsibility to protect the innocent.

This means that teachers are morally obliged to have weapons in the classroom.

There is a chance that, at some point a teacher will shoot at a student (and why not)
So it is best that students are also allowed to carry weapons in the classroom.

Now, a student will think twice before coming to school with a machine gun and 600 rounds.

So,problem solvedSmiley

And now I think about it, maybe it's a good idea for the teachers to have a heavy machine gun on there desk.
Something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1j5vGO5Knw
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