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Reply #15 - 09/28/22 at 07:26:36
 
Serowbot wrote on 09/28/22 at 06:32:56:
Serowbot wrote on 09/27/22 at 07:36:04:
“They attack national identity, they attack religious identity, gender identity, family identity”


Think about what Hitler used to justify his extermination camps.
Religious identity, gender identity, family identity (Arianism).
People that are different are not human.



What about the Poles?  They were Christian & white and slaughtered in even greater numbers.  What about Stalin & Mao?  They killed 10s of millions...........

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Reply #16 - 09/28/22 at 08:34:32
 
pg wrote on 09/28/22 at 05:16:39:
Unfortunately she is a fasist, you only have to check her background and you see that this is the real thing.


Conversative yes,  nationalistic yes, fascists nope.  Feel free to provide some  examples Zev.

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Here is a link for if you have the time:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2022/sep/24/giorgia-meloni-is...

In her early years she became a member of a neo-fascist movement.

I saw an interview from when she was young where she expressed her admiration for musolinie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=XuoXr-zjqas

She was educated at a school built in the letter M.
The school was part of a series of buildings that spelled the name Mussolini.

After the second world war, fasime was banned in Italy but the name was simply changed.
That school was of and for, adherents of fascism.

She is very talented when it comes to communication and she knows very well what to say and what not to say.
In the symbol of her party is the flame of musolinie.

It is very easy to deceive outsiders.
However, in Italy fasime is far from being eradicated. (same in Germany but not as much as in Italy)

It was not a poletik movement there, but more of a religion.
She is part of that religion, she is not alone.

The concern is justified, her appointment, her voice gives nourishment to all people raised by parents who have never let go of fascism.

Fascism is still strong in Germany.

I once went on holiday in Austria and suddenly found myself in a parade of fascists.
Not some civilians with swastikas, no A military parade.
And I think there were 500 hundred people in real uniforms, army vehicles, flags, speeches, the whole works.

And not such an unregulated mess as yours. No military precision and discipline.
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Reply #17 - 09/28/22 at 17:51:24
 
zevenenergie wrote on 09/28/22 at 08:34:32:
"... .the guardian ... "

                      LOLOLOL
That's just like Citizen 15965262 posting on youtube.com.

Or showing a link to FOX/CNN and saying "That's  The  Truth !!!!!"

LOLOLOLLLOLLOLOLOLOL
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Reply #18 - 09/28/22 at 17:58:03
 
Serowbot wrote on 09/28/22 at 06:32:56:
"Think about what Hitler used to justify his extermination camps...."

Hitler was a total LIGHTWEIGHT compared to Stalin & Mao.
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #19 - 09/28/22 at 19:22:40
 
Aaand, we may have been snookered. I'm seeing claims that she was a member of some club as a teenager and was supportive of how Mussolini  did things. I'm gonna let it churn a while before I share.
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Reply #20 - 09/29/22 at 01:57:40
 
MnSpring wrote on 09/28/22 at 17:51:24:
zevenenergie wrote on 09/28/22 at 08:34:32:
"... .the guardian ... "

                      LOLOLOL
That's just like Citizen 15965262 posting on youtube.com.

Or showing a link to FOX/CNN and saying "That's  The  Truth !!!!!"

LOLOLOLLLOLLOLOLOLOL




Her parents are fascists. Her education was given by fascist teachers. She became a member of a fascist party. In her twenties she expressed her sympathy for mussolie in an interview.
And the political party she heads, stems from a fascistise movement.
She makes her speeches in the same tone as Hitler.

And you still think she's not a fasist. Hmm... interesting.
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Reply #21 - 09/29/22 at 02:34:50
 
While I don't discount your position, I will provide a perspective from this side of the pond.  Here in the US, if you are right of center you are the enemy of the left which yields a great amount of influence.  If you have nationalistic or populistic beliefs, you are automatically labeled a fascist.  

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Reply #22 - 09/29/22 at 05:56:01
 
I've read a bit about her. She may not be who she says she is.
However, I have seen Life Long KKK members who, when they were outted, had sworn off of that ideology and were NOW pure as the driven snow, Big time Democrat, mentor to Hillary.
It's Getting so ya just don't know what to believe
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Reply #23 - 09/29/22 at 06:42:23
 
pg wrote on 09/29/22 at 02:34:50:
While I don't discount your position, I will provide a perspective from this side of the pond.  Here in the US, if you are right of center you are the enemy of the left which yields a great amount of influence.  If you have nationalistic or populistic beliefs, you are automatically labeled a fascist.  

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Ok tanks PG for this perspective. I find it a bit inconvenient that you are so quickly called a fasist in the US. Here in Europe the fascism means that you really go with that current, that you use those symbols that you actively support that thoughts, through meetings and manifestations and engages in active dissemination. Also that you glorify what happened in the 2nd world war.Ect Ect.
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Reply #24 - 09/29/22 at 07:59:51
 
All a fellow needs to do around here to get labeled a racist, misogynist, fascist is support Trump.
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