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Baldwin FBI report
08/15/22 at 04:11:07
 

 I can't secure the link to the actual FBI report at this time so this article will have to do.

https://consequence.net/2022/08/the-gun-fired-by-alec-baldwins-rust-set-could...
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Reply #1 - 08/15/22 at 04:36:04
 
In other news, investigation reveals an apple won’t fall on its own; you to let go of it.
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Reply #2 - 08/15/22 at 15:21:31
 
Yeah, shokkin ain't it? Gotta pull the trigger after ya pull the hammer back to make it go Boom. True of all guns, up to and including those FullySemiAuto scary rifles.
If it was broken,, so it would fail to hold the hammer in the fully cocked position and when the thumb was allowed to slip off the tang when the hammer got to the end of its travel, then the hammer would fall from the fully cocked position and fire the round .
Probably not The Moment when the gun is aimed.
For such a highly touted law enforcement agency it Looks kinda shabby that it took something like seventeen Special, and I Do Mean Special Agents to figure out that Noose on the garage door pull down rope was just another innocuous loop to make grabbing it easier and now it takes How Long to figure out the obvious about the gun?
It's either broken or it's Not. Ya empty it, ya thingy it, ya slap it around, ya pull the trigger and do it again. After, ohh,what? Six times? Twelve times? How many times does it have to work as designed before, unlike the lefty mantra,, it's Not the guns fault.
It really was the person holding it. Which is what we conservatives have been saying about guns for a long time.
Snot th GUN. It's the jakkass holding it.
Now let's see if we get another
At this point, what difference does it make?
dismissal.
It worked for her..
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Reply #4 - 01/18/23 at 10:21:48
 
"The New Mexico Office of the Medical Investigator has classified Hutchins’ death as an accident."

“Based on all available information, including the absence of obvious intent to cause harm or death, the manner of death is best classified as accident.”

Baldwin will walk !!!!!!!

He has kissed the correct Azzes.

Just hope the civil suits run him into the ground.

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Reply #5 - 01/18/23 at 10:30:07
 
Interesting to see what all goes on behind the scenes. I’m involved in promotional videos for work and the time and people required for a 4 minute is surprising.

Here’s an interesting point though. There was a woman policeman who accidentally pulled her gun and shot a suspect when she meant to use a taser. She’s serving a significant prison sentence now.it was an unintentional accident. Ultimately, in these accidental shootings, there was one person most responsible, the last person to touch the weapon before it was fired. One is in jail.
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Reply #6 - 01/18/23 at 10:33:45
 
"...One is in jail..."

And the other one will Walk.
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Reply #7 - 01/19/23 at 13:02:54
 
 Halls the only smart one, took a plea deal.

 Guiterrez-Reed and Baldwin will face two counts. 4th degree felony and  involuntary manslaughter, which in NM carries sentencing of up to 18 months in jail and a $5,000 fine.

 From what I see, the involuntary manslaughter charge, when a firearm is involved, there is a 5 year minimum jail/prison sentence.

 These are dependent on no further plea deals and a guilty verdict of course.  I see no reason for this to be exempt from a jury trial, so if they walk, blame the jury.
 
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Reply #8 - 01/19/23 at 13:13:18
 

Interesting to see what all goes on behind the scenes. I’m involved in promotional videos for work and the time and people required for a 4 minute is surprising.

 My cousin works in film, her first gig was keeping two hotel room bathrooms filled with ice and booze on the film "Dusk til Dawn" among other  menial tasks.  She stuck with it and worked on "Game of Thrones", and "Shameless" both of which I was able to visit the sets, and also see some post-production editing.

 I learned the general rule is an hour per-minute for the rough cut, another hour for the fine cut, and one hour for sound editing.  And that's after filming.  Pre production can take months.
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Reply #9 - 01/20/23 at 04:44:10
 
Yea, it’s a massive time-black hole.

Back on topic, Baldwin is charged with manslaughter. Unlike leftist wackos who dump lifelong friends over political views, I loathe Baldwin’s politics and his habit of using his fame to cram his every thought into the airways, but will always acknowledge he’s a terrific actor and I’m a fan of his work.  His character on 30-Rock was perhaps the best sitcom comedy character ever.

Actors get involved in politics and these causes because deep inside they feel guilty for being multimillionaires strictly based on how they look and talk. It’s like winning the lottery or surviving an accident when the person next to you was killed. There’s lotta guilt and this is their way to overcome the guilt.

But, I don’t think charging him with manslaughter is right. I try to be consistent with my views which is why because I’m against abortion I’m also against the death penalty. And I didn’t think it was right for that female police officer to go to jail because she accidentally pulled her gun out instead of her taser. Unfortunately for her, she shot a black guy so she had to be sacrificed on the altar of woke-ism.

The Rust shooting was an accident and while Baldwin might’ve pulled the trigger it seemed the one more liable than other people was the one responsible for giving the actor a safe gun. Sure I get it that as the last person to hold the gun,  he’s supposed to verify it was safe, but all of us in our jobs and daily lives do the same thing. We assume someone else has done their job and even though we’re supposed to take certain actions to verify, we know we don’t all the time.
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Reply #10 - 01/20/23 at 07:05:11
 
Right Wing gun "experts" seem to have forgotten the logic behind the "cowboy carry"
SA guns without a transfer bar can go off without pulling the trigger
Even I know that, so I know you do

He'll be charged and tried because he was holding the weapon, but he won't be found guilty
Actors can't be expected to be gun experts... that's why they have armorers.
Are actors that play surgeons expected to have medical degrees?
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Reply #11 - 01/20/23 at 08:27:20
 
"Are actors that play surgeons expected to have medical degrees?"

 No but if they are using a prop scalpel to slice open a throat they are expected to verify its a prop and not a metal blade.
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Reply #12 - 01/20/23 at 09:31:01
 
Eegore wrote on 01/20/23 at 08:27:20:
"Are actors that play surgeons expected to have medical degrees?"

 No but if they are using a prop scalpel to slice open a throat they are expected to verify its a prop and not a metal blade.

That would be easy, any layman can tell sharp from dull,... are they expected to test the defibrillator too?
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Reply #13 - 01/20/23 at 09:33:02
 
"...Right Wing gun "experts" seem to have forgotten the logic behind the "cowboy carry" ..."

Does not apply in this case.

"... Even I know that ..."

So why even suggest the, '5 in 6', is remotely relevant ?

"... He'll be charged and tried because he was holding the weapon, but he won't be found guilty..."

I believe he will be found guilty of 'accidental manslaughter', be sentenced to 12 month's in jail, (a COUNTRY CLUB one), and serving only 3.

"...Actors can't be expected to be gun experts..."

Not if they use a non firing prop only.
If it is a REAL gun that can fire.
They NEED to KNOW !!!
It is called 'being responsible', something the vast majority of UL DFI FDS WOKE Socialists know nothing about.

"...Are actors that play surgeons expected to have medical degrees? ..."

Such a typical, UL Socialistic statement.


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Reply #14 - 01/20/23 at 09:39:13
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/20/23 at 09:33:02:
"...Right Wing gun "experts" seem to have forgotten the logic behind the "cowboy carry" ..."

Does not apply in this case.




Why?   Is an actor expected to be able to identify a transfer bar within the workings of a handgun?
Did that particular gun have one?
Was it functional?
Why do you think they hire armorers?

Should actors that play pilots have pilot licenses?
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