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People are starting to talk
07/02/22 at 11:22:15
 
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Reply #1 - 07/02/22 at 14:07:04
 

 He is but his assessment has been proven wrong multiple times.  It's the same inaccuracies it was the first two times we discussed it.

 He claimed C-19 in the UK is "effectively over" and over 180,000 more people died from it.  

 He claimed, with zero provided evidence that C-19 vaccinations make women infertile.  Where are all these infertile women?

 He said Sweden would not have a medical crisis or a "2nd wave" and then Sweden had a wave of the highest use of critical medical care since WW2.  

He claimed we would see mass organ failures by the millions "within the year" as the spike proteins mutated.  Where are all the mortuaries processing hundreds of dead a day?

 How many predictions should be wrong before anyone thinks maybe this guy isn't as on top of it as he thinks.
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Reply #2 - 07/02/22 at 14:45:12
 
Gee,I dunno,, I've been trying to understand the members of the Cult of Global Warming why we have survived the moment when it's too late to take action several times and we keep getting that
Final Notice.. And the religious warmists keep on believing.
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Reply #3 - 07/02/22 at 15:37:12
 
 I'd think of it in reverse.  The vaccine death counts are the Global Warming point of no return numbers.  Claim after claim but not enough dead or missing people for any of it to be true.  Then next week another claim will come out showing "proof" millions died from the vaccine just like the "proof" that Climate Change is at the point of no return.

 There's claims that vaccines are killing people at these astronomical rates, but after 12.1 Billion vaccinations why aren't we seeing a huge drop in population rates?  222 Million in the US alone are vaccinated, if even one percent died there would be 2,220,000 dead from vaccines.  Where are all these dead bodies and why isn't there millions of family members saying anything about their dead relative?

 How many claims of millions dying from the vaccine need to be made until people see that hundreds of people around you didn't die?  Using the stats put here in Uvalde there were 19 kids killed from gunfire this year, but in 2021 1,500 died from heart attacks.  Where are the memorials for those 1500 kids?  Why didn't the schools even mention that in any way shape or form?

 But next week another article will pop up saying how deadly the vaccine is, and still with no evidence of actual dead humans, people will think its true.  The Vaccine is Deadly Religion will still say these numbers are "proof" of how bad things are.
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Reply #4 - 07/02/22 at 18:14:41
 
Story at a glance

Excess deaths are deaths associated with COVID-19 directly or indirectly.
Even if COVID-19 is not listed as the cause of death on a death certificate, it doesn’t necessarily mean the virus didn’t play a role.
One insurance company executive estimated that death rates are currently up 40 percent over what they were pre-pandemic.
As the pandemic enters its second year running, the number of deaths the virus has caused is likely much greater than official numbers indicate, setting a historic record.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) explains that excess deaths are associated with COVID-19 directly or indirectly, typically defined as the difference between the observed number of deaths in specific time periods and the expected number of deaths in the same time periods.

Currently, since Feb. 1, 2020, the CDC estimates there have been 942,431 excess deaths in the U.S.

That’s a staggering amount, as J Scott Davison, CEO of insurance company OneAmerica, explained during a health care conference organized by the Indiana Chamber of Commerce this week. Davison said that his company is seeing the highest death rates now than he’s ever seen before since he started in the insurance business.  

OneAmerica offers employers across the country group life insurance, which generally covers people 18 to 64-years-old.

Even more alarming is where those death rates are hitting, with Davison saying it’s primarily among working aged people between the ages of 18 and 64 who are covered by OneAmerica’s group life policies. The insurance company says that’s similar to what the rest of the group life industry is seeing and is consistent with CDC data.

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“Death rates are up 40 percent over what they were pre-pandemic,” said Davison of OneAmerica’s group life policy holders.

To illustrate just how severe the current death rate is, Davison said a 1 in 200-year catastrophe would likely only cause a 10 percent increase over pre-pandemic deaths.

Notably, Davison said that even if COVID-19 is not listed on a person’s death certificate, that doesn’t mean the virus didn’t play a role. For example, Davison said a person can contract COVID-19 and recover, but the virus could have triggered a separate illness that eventually leads to death.

“It may not all be Covid on their death certificates, but deaths are up in just huge, huge numbers,” Davidson said.

Micah Pollak, associate professor of economics at Indiana University Northwest, told The Guardian that high rates of mortality with COVID-19 along with disability are likely to continue to go up as more people catch the virus.  

“We really don’t know what the tail of this thing looks like. The further you get out [from infection], the longer time you have to potentially develop some kind of complications,” said Pollak.



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https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/longevity/588738-huge-huge-numbe
rs-death-rates-up-40-percent-over-pre/#:~:text=1 Excess deaths are deaths associated with COVID-19,up 40 percent over what they were pre-pandemic.
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Reply #5 - 07/02/22 at 20:23:58
 
 You posted this already, the numbers are exactly one for one the same as they were in the first post.

 My response is also the same.

https://www.acli.com/-/media/acli/files/fact-books-public/12fb21_chapter12_li...

https://www.acli.com/posting/-/media/acli/files/newsroom-news-releases-public...

 

 Not sure what this has to do with vaccines since the data is not about exclusively vaccinated people.  Actually their own stat outcomes for 2022 showed most pay-outs were to unvaccinated clients.
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